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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Austria 'opened up' again and the pictures look 'crowded'.
Of course, the media isn't going to show the masses behaving, but the 'few' that are trying to go shopping looking like a version of Oxford street.

One thing they do is demanding a negative covid test for some services like hair dresser, pedicure, ... .
 
Imurg said:
Seems to be the normal around here but, as has been said, the risk of transmission in the second or two that you're less than 2 metres apart if you walk on the same side has to be so ridiculously low that I doubt its worth mentioning.
I don't know for certain and am quite prepared to be put right but I don't see a necessity to cross or even step into the road.
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As you wish. Personally, I avoid the possibility of breathing in someone's expelled air.
I appreciate it is very low risk that that will happen in a normal "passing" ,
but last time I looked, no risk is better than a very very small risk?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
As you wish. Personally, I avoid the possibility of breathing in someone's expelled air.
I appreciate it is very low risk that that will happen in a normal "passing" ,
but last time I looked, no risk is better than a very very small risk?
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There is no such thing as 'no risk', there is only exchanging one sort of risk for another. Some people are more comfortable with, or unaware of, certain risks in preference to certain other risks.
 
SteveW86 said:
During the first lockdown it was pretty normal to cross the street when out for a walk if you came across someone in the opposite direction. I still see an element of that at the moment when our and about, but is this needed? Are people in here still doing it?

Passing someone a metre away outside is pretty minimal risk?

I appreciate the fact the reducing the risk as much as possible is the best thing to do, so crossing the road still good practise to keep doing.
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Yes...we still often cross the road if pedestrian walking our way or busy the side we are on - and if pavement is narrow and no where to stop and stand back and wait - if it is safe we will walk out onto the road to pass.

In our town this still seems to be the general practice that most still adhere to. Unfortunately for those feeling picked out I still do get a bit irked that those who are less likely to ‘do their bit’ are those out running. It seems they are unable to stop and step aside or wait.
 
Ethan said:
There is no such thing as 'no risk', there is only exchanging one sort of risk for another. Some people are more comfortable with, or unaware of, certain risks in preference to certain other risks.
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Well, that is one of those statements that is true, but at the same time will not be true when talking about a specific.
Sorry, but there is such a thing as no risk. It's a matter of agreeing what it is the risk of.
Imurg and I were talking about the risk of catching the virus - when passing in the street. You yourself have promoted the view that outdoors the risk is infin...infant...very very small?
So, if you put yourself 4 or 5 metres from each other .......all right there may be a theoretical millions to one risk even then.
But to return to your general statement..There is no such........
There is.
If I don't travel by getting on a plane, there is no risk that I will die by being in a plane that crashes.
(It's a different question as to whether I should accept the low risk involved if I do travel by plane.)
And to example the situation your are rightly scathing about - the London wedding party at a school- If you didn't attend it, then it's true to say there is no risk of catching Covid from it .
But, of course, everyday life raises a risk of something happening that you don't intend for it to happen, which is what I think you said.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Well, that is one of those statements that is true, but at the same time will not be true when talking about a specific.
Sorry, but there is such a thing as no risk. It's a matter of agreeing what it is the risk of.
Imurg and I were talking about the risk of catching the virus - when passing in the street. You yourself have promoted the view that outdoors the risk is infin...infant...very very small?
So, if you put yourself 4 or 5 metres from each other .......all right there may be a theoretical millions to one risk even then.
But to return to your general statement..There is no such........
There is.
If I don't travel by getting on a plane, there is no risk that I will die by being in a plane that crashes.
(It's a different question as to whether I should accept the low risk involved if I do travel by plane.)
And to example the situation your are rightly scathing about - the London wedding party at a school- If you didn't attend it, then it's true to say there is no risk of catching Covid from it .
But, of course, everyday life raises a risk of something happening that you don't intend for it to happen, which is what I think you said.
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I think you know what I mean. If you sit at home watching Netflix rather than leaving your home, you exchange the risk of contacting a case or getting knocked down by a bus for the risks associated with more sedentary activity and no contact with other humans. Life is not risk-free. People are very bad at trading off different risks, and Covid vaccination is an excellent example. People claim to be concerned about the safety of the vaccination whilst ignoring the ICUs full of people with the alternative.
 
In a public context I may well be able to manage 100% the risk to me from my own perspective, but I can do little to manage the risk that the actions and behaviours of others present to me. I can keep out of their way as best I can - but I can't stop someone following me or coughing close to me if that is what they choose to do.
 
Amazing how your view of a situation changes when you get some detail about the situation behind the headlines.

Headline yesterday is that Rutland has the highest level of covid infection in the UK from being one of the lowest. This was an obvious cause for concern as all of my family live in Rutland. Anyway, as it transpires, there is is a significant outbreak in Stocken Prison which, coupled with the low population of the county, has bumped the figures up to nearly 500 per 100,000. My thoughts are with all those at risk in the prison but it just goes to show that a bit of digging can make the headlines figures appear very different.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
You must have been an odd-looking toddler Billy ?
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LOL, 53 years ago I was 21 and playing in a 60s band, we all decided to grow Manfred Man type beards :D . Sadly it wasn't a good look for most of us :cry:, my beard grew in ginger reddish but my hair was dark brown, the lead guitarist with jet black hair was the only one that look the part. the drummer looked like the skinny guy from Scoobydoo.:ROFLMAO:
 
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This is not a dig aimed at anyone on here but this pandemic has shown who are selfless and who are selfish of the people I know.

I know people who follow past the letter of the guidelines

People who bend them

People who smash them

And people who just do what's right but if allowed a bit they take it as a restbite

As much as moan about the gov for their handling their screwed either way with some people's attuide
 
pauljames87 said:
This is not a dig aimed at anyone on here but this pandemic has shown who are selfless and who are selfish of the people I know.

I know people who follow past the letter of the guidelines

People who bend them

People who smash them

And people who just do what's right but if allowed a bit they take it as a restbite

As much as moan about the gov for their handling their screwed either way with some people's attuide
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I feel that as a society in lockdown we do well, but the more is released the more they bend and break.

Like driving 10% above the speed limit:
22 in a 20, 33 in a 30, 44 in a 40, ... 77 on a dual carriage way but 100 on the motorway
 
pauljames87 said:
This is not a dig aimed at anyone on here but this pandemic has shown who are selfless and who are selfish of the people I know.

I know people who follow past the letter of the guidelines

People who bend them

People who smash them

And people who just do what's right but if allowed a bit they take it as a restbite

As much as moan about the gov for their handling their screwed either way with some people's attuide
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I think we all know people in most groups. Luckily I do not know many who have no regard for the rules. Most people I know grumble but comply, though there are a few that bend them. I would class myself as someone who does what is right and makes the most of any relaxation as restbite. I know that there are all sorts of arguments about the damage that Xmas day did and I am sympathetic to all of them but having not had any outside social interaction for 2 months before and none for 2 months after, that one day did loads to bolster my own mental health.
 
Did the Kent Covid variation turn out to be 70% more transferable or 10% or something else. I've tried to find out but I can only see vague statements. I'm really not a conspiracy theorist but surely the specialists will have worked out what it is by now.
 
SocketRocket said:
Did the Kent Covid variation turn out to be 70% more transferable or 10% or something else. I've tried to find out but I can only see vague statements. I'm really not a conspiracy theorist but surely the specialists will have worked out what it is by now.
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Thought to be more transmissible but not more pathogenic, so risk of faster rise in cases with it. Dominant strain in some parts of the UK and soon will be everywhere else too.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
With the rate of new infections , hospital admissions dropping plus 13 mill having the vaccine do we think there will be a change to the easing timeline roadmap ?
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Hope so, even if it is only the schools. Pure selfish reasons on my side.
As a compromise I am happy for older vaccinated people to go and play outdoor sports like bools ;-)
 
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