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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

backwoodsman said:
Apropos of nothing other than curiosity ...

My mum, age 81, in Nottinghamshire, notified about her vaccination before Christmas, and had it a week ago.
Sister in law, age 86, in West Sussex, has heard nothing at all yet. And doesnt know anyone (ie among those she calls "the old people") who's either had it, or has got an appointment yet.

Just wondering why the seemingly big difference?
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Its very odd how the vaccine role out is happening. Me dad is 84,lives in Notts and has Luekemia yet has heard nothing. Yet me mother in her 80’s is reading that folk have had there second And the lack of any info is stressing her out.

That aside I have heard of a Couple of folk I know who have had the first vaccine ( paramedic and nurse) and both have developed Covid within a week. I cannot for one minute belive they have not adhered to the rules, am more inclined to believe its due to the new strain being more infectious.
 
williamalex1 said:
I thought it was supposed to be front line staff and people in care homes first :confused:
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My grandparents are over 80 and have both had both jabs now
Group 2

Stanley is over 80 so he on same list as NHS frontline workers now
Much as i want it be angry it's the list as promised
 
Tashyboy said:
Its very odd how the vaccine role out is happening. Me dad is 84,lives in Notts and has Luekemia yet has heard nothing. Yet me mother in her 80’s is reading that folk have had there second And the lack of any info is stressing her out.

That aside I have heard of a Couple of folk I know who have had the first vaccine ( paramedic and nurse) and both have developed Covid within a week. I cannot for one minute belive they have not adhered to the rules, am more inclined to believe its due to the new strain being more infectious.
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Do you expect them to do it in exact age order across the whole country? Different surgeries have taken longer to get ready to give the vaccinations so some are slightly ahead of others and its going to take a while to do all of the over 80s

As for those developing it after the jab, some are to be expected surely, it doesnt protect you until after a few weeks and the flu jab always used to give the odd case a mild dose of flu
 
fundy said:
Do you expect them to do it in exact age order across the whole country? Different surgeries have taken longer to get ready to give the vaccinations so some are slightly ahead of others and its going to take a while to do all of the over 80s

As for those developing it after the jab, some are to be expected surely, it doesnt protect you until after a few weeks and the flu jab always used to give the odd case a mild dose of flu
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Should be easy to track down people in care homes :confused:
 
williamalex1 said:
Just doesn't seem right to me , people in care homes are at greater risk, sounds like preferential treatment.
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If he was the only over 80 non care home resident vaccinated Id agree with you, but the truth is he is one of hundreds of thousands

Vaccinations have been distributed country wide to pharmacies and vaccination centres who are vaccinating group 2, the over 80s not in a care home
 
williamalex1 said:
Seemingly care homes have the largest covid death figures , sigh
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You that stupid? really? So you want them to slow down the vaccination program to ensure everyone gets it in the perfectly correct order? Really? Theyre doing care home and the over 80s as the first wave together. They are trying to get as many vulnerable people vaccinated as soon as possible.

Any problem with the Queen and Philip having had theirs as last time I checked Buck Palace wasnt a care home? Or just because it was old man Johnson?
 
fundy said:
You that stupid? really? So you want them to slow down the vaccination program to ensure everyone gets it in the perfectly correct order? Really? Theyre doing care home and the over 80s as the first wave together. They are trying to get as many vulnerable people vaccinated as soon as possible.

Any problem with the Queen and Philip having had theirs as last time I checked Buck Palace wasnt a care home? Or just because it was old man Johnson?
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I'm entitled to my opinion so there's no need for stupid childish insults. I've no problem with those and such as those getting the vaccination, as long as they wait their turn and don't jump the queue , most vulnerable should be first.
Some seem to have already had their 2 jabs, so much for the 3 months wait between jabs.
 
williamalex1 said:
I'm entitled to my opinion so there's no need for stupid childish insults. I've no problem with those and such as those getting the vaccination, as long as they wait their turn and don't jump the queue , most vulnerable should be first.
Some seem to have already had their 2 jabs, so much for the 3 months wait between jabs.
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Its not just the one person you mention though, thousands up and down the country have had 2 jabs already. thats not their fault, theyve not jumped the queue, theyve just turned up when their surgery notified them to do so. Our GPs are giving everyone who had had the first jab before the "1 jab and 12 week wait" announcement their 2nd jab and have heard similar elsewhere, my FIL in London had his 2nd jab earlier this week

The one I find strange is that when they vaccinate one person in a household they dont vaccinate the rest at the same time, especially in couples where one is over 80 and the other isnt. Surely would be easier to vaccinate the couple together at the same time. There again we all have opinions how they should be doing it and are probably grateful were not the ones trying to organise it and appease everyone at the same time
 
No one is jumping any queues

The priority group and front line workers are being done right now

PCN are setting up vaccine centres and at the same time some people are being given the vaccine in - care homes , hospitals and GP surgery’s whilst they set up the centres

No one is jumping queue because of who they are

Some PCN have just got up and running a bit quicker than others
 
The rollout has been very patchy, partly because that is the nature of the sort of localised system that long standing NHS policy dictates.

The criteria are not very clinically oriented, they are intended more for bureaucratic simplicity, because men have a worse risk of death than women 5 years older, BAME a similar disadvantage than white people, and if a sensible clinically orientated rollout was taking place, it would use adjusted Covid age, which is basically biological age adjusted for gender, ethnicity and certain risk factors. This can be done pretty easily with some programming. It becomes less critical as you get down the age groups.

But in the meantime, nobody should be held back in one place because others of the same age are waiting in another. Vaccinate anyone rather than vaccinate nobody. If there are spares left over at the end of the clinic that will go to waste, vaccinate people walking by the surgery or in the shop next door. This is a numbers game, and everybody vaccinated is one person closer to getting onto safe ground. And in the NHS, it seems that there are some anomalies too, with some places doing backroom staff before frontline staff. That is bad.

Meantime, I am still waiting to hear if they want me to help out. Not in a major hurry, it seems.
 
williamalex1 said:
I'm entitled to my opinion so there's no need for stupid childish insults. I've no problem with those and such as those getting the vaccination, as long as they wait their turn and don't jump the queue , most vulnerable should be first.
Some seem to have already had their 2 jabs, so much for the 3 months wait between jabs.
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My friend is 34 and had a jab. He was in hospital and was offered one because they was going to throw it away due to no shows. Did he jump the queue?
 
Ethan said:
The rollout has been very patchy, partly because that is the nature of the sort of localised system that long standing NHS policy dictates.

The criteria are not very clinically oriented, they are intended more for bureaucratic simplicity, because men have a worse risk of death than women 5 years older, BAME a similar disadvantage than white people, and if a sensible clinically orientated rollout was taking place, it would use adjusted Covid age, which is basically biological age adjusted for gender, ethnicity and certain risk factors. This can be done pretty easily with some programming. It becomes less critical as you get down the age groups.

But in the meantime, nobody should be held back in one place because others of the same age are waiting in another. Vaccinate anyone rather than vaccinate nobody. If there are spares left over at the end of the clinic that will go to waste, vaccinate people walking by the surgery or in the shop next door. This is a numbers game, and everybody vaccinated is one person closer to getting onto safe ground. And in the NHS, it seems that there are some anomalies too, with some places doing backroom staff before frontline staff. That is bad.

Meantime, I am still waiting to hear if they want me to help out. Not in a major hurry, it seems.
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I take it that all inoculations will recorded and dated on a national data base ?
 
hovis said:
My friend is 34 and had a jab. He was in hospital and was offered one because they was going to throw it away due to no shows. Did he jump the queue?
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As far as I know ?? we don't have that option here in Scotland yet. No he didn't jump the queue, he was in right place at the right time, like a care home .
 
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