Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Lord Tyrion]

I keep hearing you can't close all the schools because the kids will fall behind.
Who are the kids going to fall behind?

The issue is that years are not being frozen. Kids are still progressing up each year but will have missed chunks of the curriculum out. For some it is the building blocks, for others it is more advanced. This years A level students for example will go through knowing less than any other previous years students. That puts them at a disadvantage against those who have gone before them, extrapolate that out across other age groups.

If everyone had to repeat the year again it is an argument you could make, perhaps, but as it is certain kids will definitely fall behind others either in their age group or behind older ones.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Fall behind kids who parents can provide very good home education

If young kids they will litterally regress and have poor social skills

I agree education is important and vital, but how do the kids who have suffered natural disasters or experienced war cope?

Children in the Balkans went as long as 4 years in some instances and some went on to run succesful lives, become Doctors, Teachers etc.

Even in a normal healthy society you’ll get kids who will get a lower standard of education compared to their peers, be that either through social standing or postcode or money.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I agree education is important and vital, but how do the kids who have suffered natural disasters or experienced war cope?

Children in the Balkans went as long as 4 years in some instances and some went on to run succesful lives, become Doctors, Teachers etc.

Even in a normal healthy society you’ll get kids who will get a lower standard of education compared to their peers, be that either through social standing or postcode or money.

The key word in there is "some".

I suspect that the vast majority would struggle.

We are not at war though, and have the means and technology to deliver a quality education to our children. Which in my opinion should be the number 1 priority.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I agree education is important and vital, but how do the kids who have suffered natural disasters or experienced war cope?

Children in the Balkans went as long as 4 years in some instances and some went on to run succesful lives, become Doctors, Teachers etc.

Even in a normal healthy society you’ll get kids who will get a lower standard of education compared to their peers, be that either through social standing or postcode or money.

Perhaps the fall back of our welfare system gives too many the belief they will be carried rather than those from other countries not having that fall back as we do and know they have to work harder to get anywhere.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Our local reservoir closed on the 3rd citing too many people not distancing and creating incidents

Seems sensible, I think the rules are about right as 5 miles drive seems like a lot.

I can do the same exercise from my front door as I can at the local woods.

 

[bobmac]

The issue is that years are not being frozen. Kids are still progressing up each year but will have missed chunks of the curriculum out.

I know that but if ALL schools are closed then ALL kids will mss out the same chunk.

This years A level students for example will go through knowing less than any other previous years students. That puts them at a disadvantage against those who have gone before them, extrapolate that out across other age groups.

I thought A levels were cancelled this year?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'd have thought that saving the lives of the MOST vulnerable is the highest priority of all at the current moment!

I might well agree - but I can't comment on what a Yorkshireman of some standing and his boss tell us in respect of the critical importance of keeping schools open and how that is framing their strategy.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The key word in there is "some".

I suspect that the vast majority would struggle.

We are not at war though, and have the means and technology to deliver a quality education to our children. Which in my opinion should be the number 1 priority.

Obviously we haven’t though have we? Stories on here like your own, BBC starting a programme to get people to hand in old devices to give them to those in need.
Schools on ITV arranging for “packs” to be handed out for those with no internet, large families that can’t give the kids equal time etc.

We are not in a physical bombs and bullets war, but it’s certainly a war on a worldwide common enemy.

In an ideal world we’d have the means and technology, sadly we don’t live in that ideal world, this attack has caught us unprepared and all ages are suffering, some more than most.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Perhaps the fall back of our welfare system gives too many the belief they will be carried rather than those from other countries not having that fall back as we do and know they have to work harder to get anywhere.

Unfortunately that is tied to politics and can’t answer.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Mayor of London just declared major incident due to 1:30 Londoners being infected and 8000 calls a day to ambulance service when average is 4000. Not good...

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Obviously we haven’t though have we? Stories on here like your own, BBC starting a programme to get people to hand in old devices to give them to those in need.
Schools on ITV arranging for “packs” to be handed out for those with no internet, large families that can’t give the kids equal time etc.

We are not in a physical bombs and bullets war, but it’s certainly a war on a worldwide common enemy.

In an ideal world we’d have the means and technology, sadly we don’t live in that ideal world, this attack has caught us unprepared and all ages are suffering, some more than most.

We do have the means and the technology. My daughters school has proved it.

We were unprepared 12 months ago. But we've now had sufficient time to sort this out. Some schools and teachers simply don't want to.

 

[DanFST]

Mayor of London just declared major incident due to 1:30 Londoners being infected and 8000 calls a day to ambulance service when average is 4000. Not good...

Can't post my views on Khan else i'll get a ticking off by the mods.

However he started the pandemic telling Londoners the tube was completely safe and focused on people calling it the "Chinese virus". It was never going to go well....

 

[Deleted member 16999]

We do have the means and the technology. My daughters school has proved it.

We were unprepared 12 months ago. But we've now had sufficient time to sort this out. Some schools and teachers simply don't want to.

Simply not true, not everybody has internet for a start.

Were is the funding?

You’ll always get good and bad examples.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I know that but if ALL schools are closed then ALL kids will mss out the same chunk.




I thought A levels were cancelled this year?

All schools aren’t closed and can’t close

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I might well agree - but I can't comment on what a Yorkshireman of some standing and his boss tell us in respect of the critical importance of keeping schools open and how that is framing their strategy.

Call me callous if you want. But I'd much rather continue the education of millions of children. Especially the most vulnerable, over extending the lives of the elderly who may only have a few months to live anyway. Shield the vulnerable, vaccinate front line NHS, and teaching staff and let's get back on with life.

 

[DanFST]

Why are there no tv stations for each year group, broadcasting lessons every day?

Call me callous if you want. But I'd much rather continue the education of millions of children. Especially the most vulnerable, over extending the lives of the elderly who may only have a few months to live anyway. Shield the vulnerable, vaccinate front line NHS, and teaching staff and let's get back on with life.

At what point is it worth it tho? I spent the majority of my school days smoking ciggies and chasing girls. The only thing the later years taught me that I use in my career was how to interact with people. I haven't used algebra, science, geography or history since.

 

[GB72]

The issue is that years are not being frozen. Kids are still progressing up each year but will have missed chunks of the curriculum out. For some it is the building blocks, for others it is more advanced. This years A level students for example will go through knowing less than any other previous years students. That puts them at a disadvantage against those who have gone before them, extrapolate that out across other age groups.

If everyone had to repeat the year again it is an argument you could make, perhaps, but as it is certain kids will definitely fall behind others either in their age group or behind older ones.

Actually with A level students, this could have been turned into a positive. The next stage of their education for many will be at university and there is a big culture change from being in school all day and being force fed lessons to having to change and become self motivated, self teach and research and also take lessons in a number of different formats rather than being classroom based. The current period could be used to encourage a smoother conversion to different learning styles especially without exams at the end.

 

[bobmac]

All schools aren’t closed and can’t close

I know.

 

[bobmac]

Call me callous if you want. But I'd much rather continue the education of millions of children. Especially the most vulnerable, over extending the lives of the elderly who may only have a few months to live anyway. Shield the vulnerable, vaccinate front line NHS, and teaching staff and let's get back on with life.

What age would you consider not worth saving?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Simply not true, not everybody has internet for a start.

Were is the funding?

You’ll always get good and bad examples.

Which is why those without should be in school or provided with equipment. It will be far cheaper in the long run. But many schools are basing policies on their feelings that it is unfair on the few who haven't got the Internet or a laptop at the expense of the greater number who have.
Or they haven't been told explicitly what to do by Boris.