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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Me and Mrs SILH went to a local spot we often go for walks...it was rammed, cars jammed together and groups and individuals doing there best to keep separate...but just insanely busy - we didn’t stop and headed back home - and on the way every car park used by walkers was jammed. I’ve no idea how well those out walking fared keeping their distance from each other - but we couldn’t imagine any walk being a lot of fun. On the contrary - it would appear to be very stressful...

We ended up having a walk in and around our little town. It was almost deserted and we had a lovely walk - with the few folks we encountered quite easily making way and waiting to pass. What an irony.
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They are rammed because people want to walk there which I presume is why you went there. I find it hard to understand why people need to drive anywhere if all they are after is a walk.
 
road2ruin said:
If they said “We’re going to close schools for 1/2 weeks but at the end of that period we guarantee that they will open again” then I would be supportive if they think it’d help. However, based on previous experience, once closed there will always be reasons why they shouldn’t open again and so 1/2 weeks becomes a month which in turn becomes 6/8 weeks.

Despite the cheeriness of the vaccine we know that it’s likely to take longer to roll out than has been suggested and closing schools (especially primary) for a longer period will have life long implications for children.
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That is all fair enough, but if we have learnt one thing from the past almost a year, it is that half arsed plans don't stick. If a lockdown is needed to break the cycle, it has to be a real one. There is a price to pay, but arguably a smaller one than letting this go on for months and months. In 6 months time, even if everyone over 50 or with other health problems is vaccinated, this is still far from over.
 
Kaz said:
Some places are more pleasant for walking than others. Or just variety rather than trudging round their local streets.
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Agree but responsible people need to realise that some sacrifices are needed and to just make the best with what you have. We have had a number of car accidents up on Dartmoor because people wanted to go “out for a walk” which have put extra pressure on the emergency services.
 
I've been using the Covid 19 app for a month or so, you check in every day with how you are feeling and it tracks the numbers in your local area.
The number of cases in Gateshead were quite low last week, maybe a couple of hundred, this week we are well over a thousand, up 800 in a week ?
We've been in tier 3 and 4 for a good while now so I'm staggered at how large and fast the rise has been despite us being locked down.
 
SaintHacker said:
Funny how life puts things into to perspective sometimes. Ive had a pretty low few weeks, couldn't be bothered with xmas at all, just want to pull the covers over my head and not wake up until april really. However watched a NHS emergency service documentary last night. A woman on it had 3 teenage children, all had been diagnosed with an ultra rare genetic condition, so rare that only 6 people in the country had it. The oldest had already passed, the middle one didnt have long left,and the youngest was beginning to show symptoms but was still quite well enough to watch her older brother slowly die knowing she was next. All the mother could do was care for her children as best she could as they faded and died. Wife and i were both sat there with tears running down out cheeks thinking how lucky we actually are. What the hell right do i have to feel sorry for myself?
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Because your problems are your problems and we should never try to belittle our own issues because others have it objectively worse.

I know what you’re saying but it can be an incredibly dangerous and dark hole to go down if you start convincing yourself that you have no right to feel how you do.

If you can, talk to people about how you feel and share your experiences. I bet you’ll find so many friends and family feel the same and hopefully you’ll find little ways to feel better quickly.

Try to keep your chin up, but if you find you can’t, don’t be afraid to let others help you keep your chin up.
 
Beezerk said:
I've been using the Covid 19 app for a month or so, you check in every day with how you are feeling and it tracks the numbers in your local area.
The number of cases in Gateshead were quite low last week, maybe a couple of hundred, this week we are well over a thousand, up 800 in a week ?
We've been in tier 3 and 4 for a good while now so I'm staggered at how large and fast the rise has been despite us being locked down.
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More testing maybe?!
 
pauldj42 said:
It’s more guesswork though! What would be the better option?

Schools closed until Spring and they return to a safer World and a Country in recovery.

or

Keep them in school, more risk of or illness, World, Country staying in turmoil for longer, maybe Summer/Winter.

The younger kids can recover best of all if the process’s are put in place and resourced, ie, increase the school day by 1hr, reduce School Holidays by half etc, these measures could be put in place for 3-5 years. Older kids given guarantees of retakes or repeating school years if requested.

I fully get we worry about our Children and it doesn’t stop when they leave school, but neither does education.

I firmly believe it’s more important to save lives at the moment than worrying about how a child will turn out as an adult in 10-15 years because they missed 3 or 6 months of school work.
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My Grandsons in the USA have been home since April learning on line. They are 13, 10 and 7 years of age and seem to be managing well with their learning. Fortunately their Mum doesn't work and is there with them, I guess the main issue with it is where parents cannot be home or have to work from home.

I don't see a big issue with schools being closed for a month or two, the summer holidays could be cut short and as mentioned the school day could be extended if necessary.
 
Blue in Munich said:
How can they possibly guarantee reopening schools when that depends on the rate of virus spread, which in turn depends on the behaviour of our 60+ million population, no small number of which seem to think that none of this applies to them?

When the public guarantee that they will all play by the rules, those who are in charge might be able to guarantee when schools can reopen.
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and to add to what you say, the government nigh on guaranteed a four/ five day Christmas free for all after the second lockdown.How Could they? how could they know what the rates would be on the 16th Dec when we came out. As it happened they were worse. Partly due to a rammel lockdown and partly due to a new strain.
 
Beezerk said:
I've been using the Covid 19 app for a month or so, you check in every day with how you are feeling and it tracks the numbers in your local area.
The number of cases in Gateshead were quite low last week, maybe a couple of hundred, this week we are well over a thousand, up 800 in a week ?
We've been in tier 3 and 4 for a good while now so I'm staggered at how large and fast the rise has been despite us being locked down.
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I think it’s down to two things,
1, a Christmas with families mixing.
2, the new strain being more infectious.

Which has unfortunately helped to make the perfect storm.
 
Old Skier said:
They are rammed because people want to walk there which I presume is why you went there. I find it hard to understand why people need to drive anywhere if all they are after is a walk.
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like I mentioned a few days back. Me sons ex pal drives from Nottinghamshire to the lake district for a walk.
 
SocketRocket said:
My Grandsons in the USA have been home since April learning on line. They are 13, 10 and 7 years of age and seem to be managing well with their learning. Fortunately their Mum doesn't work and is there with them, I guess the main issue with it is where parents cannot be home or have to work from home.

I don't see a big issue with schools being closed for a month or two, the summer holidays could be cut short and as mentioned the school day could be extended if necessary.
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Where there’s a will, there’s a way.(y)
 
Kellfire said:
Because your problems are your problems and we should never try to belittle our own issues because others have it objectively worse.

I know what you’re saying but it can be an incredibly dangerous and dark hole to go down if you start convincing yourself that you have no right to feel how you do.

If you can, talk to people about how you feel and share your experiences. I bet you’ll find so many friends and family feel the same and hopefully you’ll find little ways to feel better quickly.

Try to keep your chin up, but if you find you can’t, don’t be afraid to let others help you keep your chin up.
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Probably the most sensible post on this forum for a good while.
 
Ethan said:
That is all fair enough, but if we have learnt one thing from the past almost a year, it is that half arsed plans don't stick. If a lockdown is needed to break the cycle, it has to be a real one. There is a price to pay, but arguably a smaller one than letting this go on for months and months. In 6 months time, even if everyone over 50 or with other health problems is vaccinated, this is still far from over.
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Ref your last sentence, Ethan. Come on, being in that position ,if we could now be there, would be a godsend . And it would be a helluva lot more over than what problems would be left to deal with.
There would be mainly young left who can naturally throw it off , in the main, without hospital etc.
There would still be work to be done, but life would be getting towards normal, surely?
 
It would be interesting to know what the percentage figure is of the vaccinated population where the virus begins to die out naturally as there's not enough people left for it to spread so easily, 50%, 60%?
 
Kellfire said:
Because your problems are your problems and we should never try to belittle our own issues because others have it objectively worse.

I know what you’re saying but it can be an incredibly dangerous and dark hole to go down if you start convincing yourself that you have no right to feel how you do.

If you can, talk to people about how you feel and share your experiences. I bet you’ll find so many friends and family feel the same and hopefully you’ll find little ways to feel better quickly.

Try to keep your chin up, but if you find you can’t, don’t be afraid to let others help you keep your chin up.
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I was trying to compose something along the same lines, but you've saved me the bother and done it far more eloquently, thank you.

And don't forget that it applies to you as well. (y)
 
Beezerk said:
I've been using the Covid 19 app for a month or so, you check in every day with how you are feeling and it tracks the numbers in your local area.
The number of cases in Gateshead were quite low last week, maybe a couple of hundred, this week we are well over a thousand, up 800 in a week ?
We've been in tier 3 and 4 for a good while now so I'm staggered at how large and fast the rise has been despite us being locked down.
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Unfortunately, only the good ones are locked down. :mad:
 
Kellfire said:
60 - 70% is the working model.
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It is a mathematical concept. If the R is 3, then each person passes to others. If they only are able to pass to 1 other, the infection does not grow, therefore for R=3, you need 2 out of every 3 people immune. With measles, R is 12-15, so you need 11/12, say, immune, over 90%.

The formula is 1-1/R.

It doesn’t mean the risk to individuals is gone, just the risk of epidemics.
 
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