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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Maybe consider new year resolution to give up a little on your obsession with the BBC. We know how much you love it, but maybe a period watching Sky or ITN News as well as the BBC will help for a bit of balance...but I think you’ll find that they report things in pretty much the same way. ?
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Thanks for the suggestion. BBC best of a bad lot - doesn't make their sensationalist journalism any more defensible though.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Maybe consider new year resolution to give up a little on your obsession with the BBC. We know how much you love it, but maybe a period watching Sky or ITN News as well as the BBC will help for a bit of balance...but I think you’ll find that they report things in pretty much the same way. ?
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I watched the BBC referendum results the other day, all 10 hours. The bias and some of the stuff that was said, was quite frankly embarrassing.

Not what should be broadcast by a national network.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Yes, it was he. What it boils down to is people behaviour more than the virus getting too much naughtier.
What I think is not highlighted enough, and is the major cause of this large increase, is the fact that the spreading is indoors. It is the breathing of each other's expelled breath. The timeline supports that: ( the increase in summer , outdoor , months was negligible, even reduced the spread) the winter, which combined with the allowing of indoor "meet ups", pubs, cafes etc caused a very large opportunity for the aerosol effect to occur.
And instead of being more vigilant, we have become less so!
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It is definitely driven by indoor activity in close proximity, poor ventilation and too much contact time. The problem is tat saying the virus is slightly more transmissible means nothing to the average punter. Saying the risk has greatly increased does.
 
Ethan said:
It is definitely driven by indoor activity in close proximity, poor ventilation and too much contact time. The problem is tat saying the virus is slightly more transmissible means nothing to the average punter. Saying the risk has greatly increased does.
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I agree. But I would have liked to see the reasons you mention in your first sentence pushed out more by the authorities. Because that's what people need not to do.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Yes, it was he. What it boils down to is people behaviour more than the virus getting too much naughtier.

And instead of being more vigilant, we have become less so!
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Doesn’t a lot of it also boil down to fatigue amongst large sections of the general population. If we go back to March and the initial lockdown was announced it was suggested that this would be enough to get rid of the virus and people like Chris Whitty mentioned that fatigue would definitely be an issue and they would have to factor that into decisions as to lockdowns etc.

Fast forward 11 months and we’re still in lockdown (of sorts) for a virus that for the fast majority has little or no affect. I am not condoning these actions however I haven’t heard fatigue being mentioned now, instead it’s is people like Hugh Montgomery suggesting that these people have ‘blood on their hands’ etc.
 
road2ruin said:
.....Hugh Montgomery suggesting that these people have ‘blood on their hands’ etc.
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I would also add, and this might be an unpopular opinion, that I found Hugh’s interview bordering on hysterical. I’m not trying to underplay the pandemic however it was clearly another attempt to try and scare the population back into line as other things aren’t working.
 
road2ruin said:
I would also add, and this might be an unpopular opinion, that I found Hugh’s interview bordering on hysterical. I’m not trying to underplay the pandemic however it was clearly another attempt to try and scare the population back into line as other things aren’t working.
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Good policy then.
 
SocketRocket said:
Good policy then.
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Hasn’t particularly worked so far though has it despite having been tried numerous times.

By claiming that one person is going to infect hundreds of thousands of others and that entire families (inc children) are being wiped out is just OTT and probably doesn’t help as most will know that’s simply not true. Try using someone more level headed with sensible facts/figures and people are more likely to listen imo.
 
road2ruin said:
I would also add, and this might be an unpopular opinion, that I found Hugh’s interview bordering on hysterical. I’m not trying to underplay the pandemic however it was clearly another attempt to try and scare the population back into line as other things aren’t working.
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Well, he is right with his assessment, but I think he needs to offer advice to people in a way they will accept and follow. Blaming people may be justified but it is probably tactically unwise and it may reinforce good habits in those who already have them but not change bad habits in that lot.
 
road2ruin said:
Doesn’t a lot of it also boil down to fatigue amongst large sections of the general population. If we go back to March and the initial lockdown was announced it was suggested that this would be enough to get rid of the virus and people like Chris Whitty mentioned that fatigue would definitely be an issue and they would have to factor that into decisions as to lockdowns etc.

Fast forward 11 months and we’re still in lockdown (of sorts) for a virus that for the fast majority has little or no affect. I am not condoning these actions however I haven’t heard fatigue being mentioned now, instead it’s is people like Hugh Montgomery suggesting that these people have ‘blood on their hands’ etc.
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Did anyone really say the bit in bold? I don't recall it, and if they did I would have disregarded it as nonsense.
 
Ethan said:
Well, he is right with his assessment, but I think he needs to offer advice to people in a way they will accept and follow. Blaming people may be justified but it is probably tactically unwise and it may reinforce good habits in those who already have them but not change bad habits in that lot.
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I agree with this. If you want to take it to the n’th degree he also has blood on his own hands. I think it’s 20-30% of cases are actually acquired within hospitals so if you’re going to start throwing blame around and suggesting it’s other people’s fault then by his own logic he has to also take responsibility as they’re occurring within the NHS itself. Now this is completely OTT and I’m not suggesting front line workers are at fault but it’s an unhelpful comment just as his is....again, in my opinion.
 
IainP said:
Did anyone really say the bit in bold? I don't recall it, and if they did I would have disregarded it as nonsense.
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To be fair I think I was paraphrasing one of Boris’s comments early on as it’s become clear that he’s incapable of giving bad news. He’s already promising us that we’ll be celebrating come Easter Sunday which probably puts the kiss of death on everything until the end of the summer based on previous form.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Have people become a little dulled to such threats though? If the message is constant doom then people become numb to it, it becomes white noise.
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Absolutely spot on.

Back in the spring, after my daily walk I would sit on the patio with a cold beer and cringe when the deaths increased by nearly 1000 a day. Now, I’m afraid I barely raise an eyebrow.

After months of bad news I’ve simply come to expect it.
 
After discussions with the in-laws we have decided not to continue with our childcare bubble, it has become too much of a risk

This was a hard decision but the right one. Currently my wife and I are struggling, we are currently both burning out on alternating weekends but still feel it’s right to end the bubble now, the risk with schools starting again is too high.

I wonder if others are doing the same, it’s a hard decision so I don’t blame any if they keep the bubble, every family is different and risks are different. My in laws are effectively sheilding again so ending our bubble just makes it complete.

Stay safe, make the right decisions for you, your immediate and your extended families, in doing so we can all get them back into our lives that much quicker!
 
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