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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

PhilTheFragger said:
Thread reopened after a bit of a spat last night

How about we stop trying to pick each other to bits ?
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A spat on the forum, who would of thought that. About time you started working part time Fragger so you can spend more time policing the “ Grown ups”.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I can only speak from a nursing perspective but if you talk to anyone in the NHS involved in direct patient care, it is the one thing that still wrangles and the small rises we've had are still behind inflation and feel paltry. Of course you can make a direct argument for the police and fire service, ambulance service etc as well. I doubt after all this anything will change though
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...thinking about ICU/ITU nursing capacity to cope if things don't go well over the coming couple of months (to early Feb) and beyond - in the months over the summer when the pressure on the hospitals dropped has your trust (or other trusts yo know) been training return-to-work nurses and non-ICU/ITU nurses to look after Covid patients in an ICU/ITU context? One of the concerns I'm hearing at the moment is that it's OK for the Nightingale hospitals to be ready to be re-activated - but if the additional staff to run them and care for patients isn't there then we will be back to pulling staff from other disciplines and aspects of critical care - and that surely has to be avoided.

So looking specifically at London being in Tier2 from 2nd Dec. Now that may well be down to the hospital capacity being available across London - as the huge docklands Nightingale Hospital is still there - but if the staff has to be drawn from across London's hospitals as it was, then the fact of the additional capacity becomes less significant in determining tier, almost besides the point...?

In truth I am expecting that such training to have been happening...I certainly hope so. Getting ahead of things just in case.
 
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not me as such but a couple of Guys i know who play at Gullane and live in Edinburgh have been told by the club they cannot travel there to play if you are outside the 5 miles. they are in T3 and Gullane T2
 
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DanFST said:
And you are calling someone else passive aggressive? Christ.

I do think they are underpaid, but almost 700k nurses indicates that people are still willing to work. However i would chuck them up to 33k (average wage) with generous specialised taxing and make sure all stupid costs were eliminated IE: parking and paying for meals when working.
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Looking on the GOV website the average is around £34k

I do agree with your point about Parking and Meals.
 
Leftitshort said:
Everything we do carries an risk necessary or otherwise. Rather than clapping for them, or thinking about them, why don’t we fund them properly and pay them a decent wage? Maybe we should have thought about them more during the last 10 years of austerity?
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The parts not in bold I would agree with ( though how my post is connected to those sentiments,I'm not sure about)
The comment in bold however is obviously a true statement in itself , but as a reply to my post , it seems it is made to rebut my plea for people not to take unnecessary risks re Covid.
Is it?
And if so, what is your case for people to take unnecessary risks (with themselves and thus others they may meet )about contracting Covid?
 
ColchesterFC said:
Depends on whether choir members are classed as "formal performers" or not. My take on it would be that a "formal performer" would be a paid singer rather than a group of amateurs getting together in a choir for a sing song. But that's just my opinion on it and how I'm reading the rules. I would also suggest that getting together as part of a choir would class as "socialising with others" which is banned indoors.
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I'm man enough to hold my hands up when I get something wrong. Apologies for the Daily Mail link but this clears up the matter (assuming it's correct) and my original take on it was wrong. Looks like SiLH and Paul were correct.

"Can you sing carols in church?

No, unless you are in a choir. Government guidance, published on Sunday to cover the Christmas period, allows indoor singing when England's national lockdown ends on Wednesday, but only by choirs and with no audience participation.

Indoor singing by professional and amateur choirs can take place according to the particular area's tier, but audiences or congregations are not to join in 'any activity that can create aerosols, including singing, shouting and chanting'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9000527/Christmas-UK-sing-carols-trains-running.html
 
ColchesterFC said:
I'm man enough to hold my hands up when I get something wrong. Apologies for the Daily Mail link but this clears up the matter (assuming it's correct) and my original take on it was wrong. Looks like SiLH and Paul were correct.

"Can you sing carols in church?

No, unless you are in a choir. Government guidance, published on Sunday to cover the Christmas period, allows indoor singing when England's national lockdown ends on Wednesday, but only by choirs and with no audience participation.

Indoor singing by professional and amateur choirs can take place according to the particular area's tier, but audiences or congregations are not to join in 'any activity that can create aerosols, including singing, shouting and chanting'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9000527/Christmas-UK-sing-carols-trains-running.html
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Just different ways of interpreting what was published etc,

I’m sure everyone else who doubted us or “liked” the opposing posts will be along soon to give silh and his choir best wishes for the festive season.;)
 
Swinglowandslow said:
The parts not in bold I would agree with ( though how my post is connected to those sentiments,I'm not sure about)
The comment in bold however is obviously a true statement in itself , but as a reply to my post , it seems it is made to rebut my plea for people not to take unnecessary risks re Covid.
Is it?
And if so, what is your case for people to take unnecessary risks (with themselves and thus others they may meet )about contracting Covid?
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Depends on your definition of unnecessary. On Saturday I’m off to the golf club, I’m allowed to, is it necessary?
It might be
 
pauldj42 said:
Just different ways of interpreting what was published etc,

I’m sure everyone else who doubted us or “liked” the opposing posts will be along soon to give silh and his choir best wishes for the festive season.;)
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Yep, absolutely. My best wishes go to SiLH, and his choir, for the festive season and their church services during that time. (y)
 
SocketRocket said:
Enhanced pay for unsociable hours – between 30% and 60% above standard rate for night shifts, weekends and bank holidays
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Indeed that should be on top of a basic 34. Then they might just start to be fairly paid.
 
Oh well, I can only hope that some readers got the point I was trying to make about mental health and boredom before the pedants started bickering.


Leftitshort said:
Without being unduly flippant (unlike your reply) thats unfortunately an occupational hazard.
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So Joe blogs is bored at home getting paid to watch telly. He then plays the 'mental health' card to justify going out, catches the virus and ends up dying in an ICU.
No thought given to the mental health of the doctors and nurses who have to clear up the mess and to say it's just part of their job is just pathetic in my opinion.
And for those of you who may have missed my earlier post.....

''To those who are planning to make unnecessary journeys/meetings/gatherings etc over the next few weeks, please spare a thought for the nurses and doctors.''
 
bobmac said:
Oh well, I can only hope that some readers got the point I was trying to make about mental health and boredom before the pedants started bickering.




So Joe blogs is bored at home getting paid to watch telly. He then plays the 'mental health' card to justify going out, catches the virus and ends up dying in an ICU.
No thought given to the mental health of the doctors and nurses who have to clear up the mess and to say it's just part of their job is just pathetic in my opinion.
And for those of you who may have missed my earlier post.....

''To those who are planning to make unnecessary journeys/meetings/gatherings etc over the next few weeks, please spare a thought for the nurses and doctors.''
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So just to confirm...

Unless you have something essential to do, don’t leave the house?

Is that what you’re saying?
 
bluewolf said:
So just to confirm...

Unless you have something essential to do, don’t leave the house?

Is that what you’re saying?
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That's my thinking yes.
I know and understand that lots of people have to leave their house for many different reasons but I will keep my contact with other people to the bare minimum until this pandemic starts to ease.
 
bobmac said:
That's my thinking yes.
I know and understand that lots of people have to leave their house for many different reasons but I will keep my contact with other people to the bare minimum until this pandemic starts to ease.
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And that is absolutely your choice ?

Unfortunately, if we all make the same choice then there won’t be a country for us to emerge into.

And trust me. No one wants to protect the Nurses of the NHS more than I do. Who’s going to make my tea and look after the kids if mine goes? ?
 
bobmac said:
Oh well, I can only hope that some readers got the point I was trying to make about mental health and boredom before the pedants started bickering.




So Joe blogs is bored at home getting paid to watch telly. He then plays the 'mental health' card to justify going out, catches the virus and ends up dying in an ICU.
No thought given to the mental health of the doctors and nurses who have to clear up the mess and to say it's just part of their job is just pathetic in my opinion.
And for those of you who may have missed my earlier post.....

''To those who are planning to make unnecessary journeys/meetings/gatherings etc over the next few weeks, please spare a thought for the nurses and doctors.''
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When does the health and wellbeing of one group of people take priority over another group? And who decides?
 
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