Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Please explain how you come to that conclusion.

Do you deny that at least in the broad scheme that a socialist outlook on society is more likely to prioritise the happiness and health of everyone as a collective when compared to our current capitalist culture?

If so then it’s a fundamental disagreement which we’ll never get past so no point trying. :)
 
Do you deny that at least in the broad scheme that a socialist outlook on society is more likely to prioritise the happiness and health of everyone as a collective when compared to our current capitalist culture?

If so then it’s a fundamental disagreement which we’ll never get past so no point trying. :)
It's impossible to discuss this without breaking the rule on political posting. I can only say that your previous suggestion is not true IMO.
 
Got a message through today on the Covid app saying I had been in contact with someone who has Covid. It was a couple of hours after a PP put on our what’s app group that he had Covid. Played a round with him last Tuesday. No suprise where the contact was then. Anyway that’s not a problem at all, 9 days isolation as per the app says.
But, I spoke to another PP who played a round today and played with me on Tuesday. They were on about it at the course after today’s round and a few lads said “ stuff it we won’t sign on with the app when we get to the course”. What the hell is that all about. I could scream.

The issue for me is the validity of the contact ID. If you had been playing golf outdoors (as it is generally played!) and observing social distancing, the chance of infection is minimal and probably should not necessitate isolation. Presumably the other guy was just asked to name who he had played with and not a great deal of thought has gone into whether there was real exposure or not.

Covid is a condition transmitted through close and prolonged contact in poorly ventilated places. Unless he walked up to you and coughed in your face, you are very unlikely to have caught it. If you are happy to self-isolate, fine, but I sympathise with anyone for whom that is a major inconvenience.
 
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Got a message through today on the Covid app saying I had been in contact with someone who has Covid. It was a couple of hours after a PP put on our what’s app group that he had Covid. Played a round with him last Tuesday. No suprise where the contact was then. Anyway that’s not a problem at all, 9 days isolation as per the app says.
But, I spoke to another PP who played a round today and played with me on Tuesday. They were on about it at the course after today’s round and a few lads said “ stuff it we won’t sign on with the app when we get to the course”. What the hell is that all about. I could scream.

The app doesn't know if your outside or inside and it's only Inside for over 15 mins that it should be concerned about

It gives people the ability to turn off the tracking bit in the app, and I'm not surprised people are turning it off when outside because they would be told to isolate when they shouldn't be really ..

Would be good if it could say where u where when you had the contact so then you could work out if you were outside or inside and know do I need to isolate

How many players leave their phones in their bag, so bags stay together for example and tells track and trace their standing next to each other when their not at all
 
The app doesn't know if your outside or inside and it's only Inside for over 15 mins that it should be concerned about

It gives people the ability to turn off the tracking bit in the app, and I'm not surprised people are turning it off when outside because they would be told to isolate when they shouldn't be really ..

Would be good if it could say where u where when you had the contact so then you could work out if you were outside or inside and know do I need to isolate

How many players leave their phones in their bag, so bags stay together for example and tells track and trace their standing next to each other when their not at all

a friend of mine; in his 40s, has a masters degree, well educated family, earns six digit salary, well travelled, plays golf every week..... (opposite of every stereotype).. just refuses to use the NHS app. Met him and a few others for a pub meal a few weeks ago. everyone except him signed in. never check ins at his club either. There is nothing you can do for covidiots
 
The issue for me is the validity of the contact ID. If you had been playing golf outdoors (as it is generally played!) and observing social distancing, the chance of infection is minimal and probably should not necessitate isolation. Presumably the other guy was just asked to name who he had played with and not a great deal of thought has gone into whether there was real exposure or not.

Covid is a condition transmitted through close and prolonged contact in poorly ventilated places. Unless he walked up to you and coughed in your face, you are very unlikely to have caught it. If you are happy to self-isolate, fine, but I sympathise with anyone for whom that is a major inconvenience.
Had a good natter with Missis T about this. We honestly don’t know if it because he Named us or did the phones which are now sat in the golf bags linked whilst waiting at tees when the bags were side by side. Not sure at all how it works.
Re the isolation, it is it what it is. Fortunately being retired there’s no work or money issues.
 
Had a good natter with Missis T about this. We honestly don’t know if it because he Named us or did the phones which are now sat in the golf bags linked whilst waiting at tees when the bags were side by side. Not sure at all how it works.
Re the isolation, it is it what it is. Fortunately being retired there’s no work or money issues.
When I play golf now I leave my phone in the car, specifically to avoid being caught out on this. I take it and sign in using the app when I have a drink afterwards but to get potentially caught because two phones are communicating between bags would annoy me greatly.

At least you are not missing City matches on your season ticket due to this. Keep sane!
 
When I play golf now I leave my phone in the car, specifically to avoid being caught out on this. I take it and sign in using the app when I have a drink afterwards but to get potentially caught because two phones are communicating between bags would annoy me greatly.

At least you are not missing City matches on your season ticket due to this. Keep sane!

You could turn off contact tracing before you tee off with a reminder for 4 hours time
 
You could turn off contact tracing before you tee off with a reminder for 4 hours time
I could but it is even easier to just leave it in the car. Fair point though.

I don't check the phone when I am playing. If there is an emergency then I have told my wife to ring the club and someone would come out in a buggy and find me. I was trying to think of the last time I checked my phone whilst playing and I could not think of it. Inevitably it would be to check sports scores :D, nothing else. As I play early on a Saturday morning it would either be the World Cup rugby last year or cricket at some point. I'm not an obsessive regarding my phone so I am happy to leave it untouched.
 
When I play golf now I leave my phone in the car, specifically to avoid being caught out on this. I take it and sign in using the app when I have a drink afterwards but to get potentially caught because two phones are communicating between bags would annoy me greatly.

At least you are not missing City matches on your season ticket due to this. Keep sane!

I made the decision re not renewing the season tickets for this season. Last season, going to the games was pergutory. Changing fixtures, late fixtures, VAR. It got to be a chore. I probably missed more matches than I saw. Oddly enough it has come to the point where I am not even bothered if it is on the box. Might change when fans are allowed at games.
 
Not commented on this thread for a bit, but is there anyone That has struggled through this Covid.
 
You talking about the disease or the period of time?

Any part of it, a pal of mine had Covid and was really poorly, hie wife now has Lupus. Specialist don’t know if there linked. Me ma and Pa who are in there 80’s. It’s driving them barmy.
 
Any part of it, a pal of mine had Covid and was really poorly, hie wife now has Lupus. Specialist don’t know if there linked. Me ma and Pa who are in there 80’s. It’s driving them barmy.
I hope they are not linked, my wife was diagnosed with Lupus when she 19! She has also been on Hydroxychloroquine for 30 years.
 
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