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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

What has confused me is what side some people are arguing on. When they say 'why is OK for pubs to open and for people to be in there but I can only have 15 people at my wedding or I can only meet 6 people at home' are they arguing that pubs should be shut or that what they want to do should be allowed. The argument seems to work both ways.

What I suspect most of them mean is 'I am annoyed that I cannot do what I had planned to do' and not 'for the good of the nation we should be applying stricter regulations across the board to minimise the spread of covid'
 
maxfli65 said:
London 10pm - not tough enough?
https://twitter.com/x/status/1309244883023126530
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A different take on that video, is that I only see some people on the street. Smallish groups and not all massively close to each other. Pretty safe and within the rules.

Whats the problem ?

I have seen worse at golf clubs, bigger groups than six sitting together, prize presentations, arriving at the tee in groups, taking the pins out, shaking hands at the end and so on....and not all young people, age range from late 20s upto 70s.
 
DRW said:
A different take on that video, is that I only see some people on the street. Smallish groups and not all massively close to each other. Pretty safe and within the rules.

Whats the problem ?

I have seen worse at golf clubs, bigger groups than six sitting together, prize presentations, arriving at the tee in groups, taking the pins out, shaking hands at the end and so on....and not all young people, age range from late 20s upto 70s.
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Agree with that, I stopped going to my club after the weekend before lockdown. Absolutely no compliance with the rules from large numbers of members who were old enough to know better. Interesting watching youtube golf videos to see how social distancing and various other rules seems to have lapsed over the last few weeks.
 
DRW said:
A different take on that video, is that I only see some people on the street. Smallish groups and not all massively close to each other. Pretty safe and within the rules.

Whats the problem ?

I have seen worse at golf clubs, bigger groups than six sitting together, prize presentations, arriving at the tee in groups, taking the pins out, shaking hands at the end and so on....and not all young people, age range from late 20s upto 70s.
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A picture was posted on FB from a club near to me last week :whistle:. It is of a visiting party from another club, around 20-25 middle aged golfers squashed together, some with arms around each other, in the bar area :rolleyes:. Clueless for how they are grouped, clueless for posting it thinking it was a good idea. There are lots of examples I've seen of end of year comps, trophies being handed over, hand shakes all round. Bad practice is happening across the age groups.

I agree with you about the picture you are talking about.
 
pauljames87 said:
How many kids per class in those schools tho

Within 1 mile of me I have 7 primary schools... With 30 kids per class.. two - three form entry

Also have 3 secondary schools which are 6 forms of 30-35 students

So very densely populated

Easy for cases to rip through
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Up to 33 in secondary s1 and s2. Up to 30 in older years.
 
DRW said:
A different take on that video, is that I only see some people on the street. Smallish groups and not all massively close to each other. Pretty safe and within the rules.

Whats the problem ?

I have seen worse at golf clubs, bigger groups than six sitting together, prize presentations, arriving at the tee in groups, taking the pins out, shaking hands at the end and so on....and not all young people, age range from late 20s upto 70s.
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So there's no problem there because others are worse? 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Govt have just warned about a worrying spike in covid spread, appealing to people to work from home and follow safety rules, these people are not socially distanced - 2 metres or 6' 6.5" is the height of Peter Crouch lying flat between people, hardly any are wearing masks either. If one of those people is infected and coughs then the potential for spread is very high.
Can't discuss it further as it goes into politics but enforcing masks more widely seems necessasry, also the 10pm pub closing rule changed from 11pm seems rather pointless.
 
maxfli65 said:
London 10pm - not tough enough?
https://twitter.com/x/status/1309244883023126530
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The reason the licencing laws were changed was in the main to stop this when all the pubs closed.
Chucking out time was a nightmare years ago. Fights for taxis etc.
Might be different now but can only see this causing trouble.
By doing this it’s gone backward and has caused a big problem .
Unintended consequences.
 
Donegal gone to stage 3 lock down. No one allowed to travel to play golf.

No one allowed to leave the county without good reason.

As it's a boarder county with the north there will quite a headache with many needing to go to work while others will be flouting the regulations.
 
maxfli65 said:
So there's no problem there because others are worse? 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Govt have just warned about a worrying spike in covid spread, appealing to people to work from home and follow safety rules, these people are not socially distanced - 2 metres or 6' 6.5" is the height of Peter Crouch lying flat between people, hardly any are wearing masks either. If one of those people is infected and coughs then the potential for spread is very high.
Can't discuss it further as it goes into politics but enforcing masks more widely seems necessasry, also the 10pm pub closing rule changed from 11pm seems rather pointless.
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Until such time as masks protects the wearer and other people, they are not the solution to any virus.

You say there is a very high chance of spread in an outdoor situation if one person coughs/infected. Not sure what to say, apart from I don't agree, there is an outside chance that it may spread to maybe one other person, but you would still have to be fairly unlucky and who now coughs?, its worse than farting:LOL:

You have made many assumptions about the people on the street, as I can see couples together, and (given its London) probably a lot are house or study mates and from what I can see are in groups less than 6.

The video above is not a great example of a virus spreading situation, whereas a big group in a clubhouse is far riskier and has the potential to be a super spreader event. Hence my examples of a higher risk event in my previous post, I also wished to highlight it is not just young people, as young people seem to be getting a bashing currently, maybe just maybe its more of a reflection on the jobs they do, studying they do, what young people do ie. play and being encourage to get out and support pubs and such like.

Don't get me wrong, there are far better examples in London of non compliance, a video of people in certain pubs before kick out time would be more interesting (y):eek:
 
KenL said:
Up to 33 in secondary s1 and s2. Up to 30 in older years.
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How many is that tho total year group 66? My old school was 30 kids 6 forms so 180 a year ..5 years 900 kids then you got the 6th form that's another 200 ISH
 
Lord Tyrion said:
A picture was posted on FB from a club near to me last week :whistle:. It is of a visiting party from another club, around 20-25 middle aged golfers squashed together, some with arms around each other, in the bar area :rolleyes:. Clueless for how they are grouped, clueless for posting it thinking it was a good idea. There are lots of examples I've seen of end of year comps, trophies being handed over, hand shakes all round. Bad practice is happening across the age groups.

I agree with you about the picture you are talking about.
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I was just talking about the various golf clubs I have played at and what I have seen.

I'm not on facebook, get that picture loaded up, lets have a lookie ? :D
 
garyinderry said:
Donegal gone to stage 3 lock down. No one allowed to travel to play golf.

No one allowed to leave the county without good reason.

As it's a boarder county with the north there will quite a headache with many needing to go to work while others will be flouting the regulations.
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It that were you are ? so no more golf for you:(
 
Mmmm..interesting times.
There has been a ballot of PCS members - one of the main Driving Examiner Unions.
They polled the Examiners and the results show serious H&S concerns amongst them.
86% believed it not safe for them to work
96% believed they shouldn't be forced to work
90% believe candidates should have to take a Covid test before taking their driving test
73% were prepared to take action in support of the findings.
Worth noting that not all examiners are in PCS but most are.
So if they don't think its safe and are ready to "down tools" where does that leave me.?
No tests means no point in learning.......another couple of months off.....:rolleyes::unsure:
 
Imurg said:
Mmmm..interesting times.
There has been a ballot of PCS members - one of the main Driving Examiner Unions.
They polled the Examiners and the results show serious H&S concerns amongst them.
86% believed it not safe for them to work
96% believed they shouldn't be forced to work
90% believe candidates should have to take a Covid test before taking their driving test
73% were prepared to take action in support of the findings.
Worth noting that not all examiners are in PCS but most are.
So if they don't think its safe and are ready to "down tools" where does that leave me.?
No tests means no point in learning.......another couple of months off.....:rolleyes::unsure:
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Results in another interesting position. If their job cannot be carried out, by their own admission, then they should be furloughed. Cannot be furloughed as the scheme has ended, they cannot work a third of their hours so do not qualify as having a viable job, only solution is that they are all made redundant. Not a fair expenditure of public money to pay them all to do nothing until their is a vaccine, which would appear to be the only solution to this.
 
Does anyone know? With the UK adding country after country to the quarantine list.

How does the rest of the world view the UK? Do they have the UK on their lists?
 
garyinderry said:
Does anyone know? With the UK adding country after country to the quarantine list.

How does the rest of the world view the UK? Do they have the UK on their lists?
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I know that Barbados now insists that visitors from the UK quarantine for 5 days on arrival. You are tested on arrival and need to pass that test and anther 4-5 days later.
 
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