Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Deleted member 16999]

Sadly people feign confusion in order to excuse their breaches of the regulations or so as they can simply do as they like and claim they did not understand. I read an article yesterday that people were saying that they still did not understand social distancing. Really, after 6 months.

Why is somebody asking a question always took as confusion? Maybe they simply want clarification. ie, Why 10pm for the pubs? Why not 8pm or 11pm? etc, questioning is not about disagreeing, but instead of others actually answering what is being asked they decide there is an agenda to the question and either deflect or turn it back on the one asking.

 

[SocketRocket]

But yet you've chosen not to? As it won't take much, please do explain to those that don't get it?

I didn't because I didn't think it necessary. In places like Pubs and Restaurants the environment has to be controlled or the proprietors are liable to big fines and closure, at home no one monitors it and is open to abuse. There is also the question of keeping the economy going which is very important to the country's well being

 

[stefanovic]

Practice this for social distancing.

 

[GB72]

Why is somebody asking a question always took as confusion? Maybe they simply want clarification. ie, Why 10pm for the pubs? Why not 8pm or 11pm? etc, questioning is not about disagreeing, but instead of others actually answering what is being asked they decide there is an agenda to the question and either deflect or turn it back on the one asking.

I am not talking about questioning the need for certain regulations, I question golf club dress codes all the time. What I do, however, is comply with the rule whilst questioning. What I said, and I do not think that it was unclear, is that people are breaching the rules and using ignorance as an excuse 'Sorry officer, I never knew that I could not have 50 people round for a party' etc. Take social distancing, people can question why it is needed but to say that you do not understand what it is comes across a bit odd after 6 months of it.

 

[Hobbit]

Why is somebody asking a question always took as confusion? Maybe they simply want clarification. ie, Why 10pm for the pubs? Why not 8pm or 11pm? etc, questioning is not about disagreeing, but instead of others actually answering what is being asked they decide there is an agenda to the question and either deflect or turn it back on the one asking.

You're not wrong... but why not just comply with the rule whilst its clarified? There's lots of, almost deliberately ignorant, question on the timings. Why shut at 10pm, why not just shut? Or why not just leave it alone?

Its fairly obvious the the govt want to try and keep the economy (half) ticking over. Yes, why don't we close completely as the virus doesn't know 10pm from 8pm from midnight - and that's the ignorant question. We all know that the virus doesn't have a Rolex but if everything is shut down there'll be no economy to return to.

As for the young saying, yes but it won't affect us, and the elderly can just stay home. One question, which I hope the young will honestly answer. If you do decide you will continue to go out and "do your thing," which I don't have a problem with in isolation, will you also still be visiting your parents and grand parents, i.e. the at risk groups? Your choice, and I don't care what your answer is. But maybe you should. After all, they're your parents/grand parents, not mine.

 

[GB72]

You're not wrong... but why not just comply with the rule whilst its clarified? There's lots of, almost deliberately ignorant, question on the timings. Why shut at 10pm, why not just shut? Or why not just leave it alone?

Its fairly obvious the the govt want to try and keep the economy (half) ticking over. Yes, why don't we close completely as the virus doesn't know 10pm from 8pm from midnight - and that's the ignorant question. We all know that the virus doesn't have a Rolex but if everything is shut down there'll be no economy to return to.

As for the young saying, yes but it won't affect us, and the elderly can just stay home. One question, which I hope the young will honestly answer. If you do decide you will continue to go out and "do your thing," which I don't have a problem with in isolation, will you also still be visiting your parents and grand parents, i.e. the at risk groups? Your choice, and I don't care what your answer is. But maybe you should. After all, they're your parents/grand parents, not mine.

I always felt that one of the most potent statements that I heard is that a parent would do anything and give up anything to keep their children fit, well and healthy and yet it seems to be too much a a stretch for the younger generation to show their parents similar care.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I am not talking about questioning the need for certain regulations, I question golf club dress codes all the time. What I do, however, is comply with the rule whilst questioning. What I said, and I do not think that it was unclear, is that people are breaching the rules and using ignorance as an excuse 'Sorry officer, I never knew that I could not have 50 people round for a party' etc. Take social distancing, people can question why it is needed but to say that you do not understand what it is comes across a bit odd after 6 months of it.

You're not wrong... but why not just comply with the rule whilst its clarified? There's lots of, almost deliberately ignorant, question on the timings. Why shut at 10pm, why not just shut? Or why not just leave it alone?

Its fairly obvious the the govt want to try and keep the economy (half) ticking over. Yes, why don't we close completely as the virus doesn't know 10pm from 8pm from midnight - and that's the ignorant question. We all know that the virus doesn't have a Rolex but if everything is shut down there'll be no economy to return to.

As for the young saying, yes but it won't affect us, and the elderly can just stay home. One question, which I hope the young will honestly answer. If you do decide you will continue to go out and "do your thing," which I don't have a problem with in isolation, will you also still be visiting your parents and grand parents, i.e. the at risk groups? Your choice, and I don't care what your answer is. But maybe you should. After all, they're your parents/grand parents, not mine.

I don’t disagree with anything either of you are saying, but I don’t see anyone on this forum and only the loons on TV etc actually saying they’ll not comply with what is being asked.

If it wasn’t for people asking questions then the Government wouldn’t be amending guidance when it is practical, ie, Grandparents and Childcare being a prime example.

Unfortunately anyone questioning any of the guidance on here is immediately jumped on by a few as if those asking the question have suggested ignoring the rules.

Whether we like it or not there has been mixed messages coming from authorities at times.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I always felt that one of the most potent statements that I heard is that a parent would do anything and give up anything to keep their children fit, well and healthy and yet it seems to be too much a a stretch for the younger generation to show their parents similar care.

There we go again tarring a whole generation with the same brush, I’ve come across far more ignorant middle/old aged people over Covid than young people.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I didn't because I didn't think it necessary. In places like Pubs and Restaurants the environment has to be controlled or the proprietors are liable to big fines and closure, at home no one monitors it and is open to abuse. There is also the question of keeping the economy going which is very important to the country's well being

I think it’s well proven that the supposedly well supervised and better controlled venues have royally taken the proverbial previously and your assumption that because homes aren’t monitored then they won’t abide by it is out of order.

But even if a pub abides by the rules as far as is possible, they may well have considerably more groups of up to 6, thus exponentially increasing the opportunity to spread the virus.
So remind me again how it’s so obvious?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Why is somebody asking a question always took as confusion? Maybe they simply want clarification. ie, Why 10pm for the pubs? Why not 8pm or 11pm? etc, questioning is not about disagreeing, but instead of others actually answering what is being asked they decide there is an agenda to the question and either deflect or turn it back on the one asking.

Because ideally, for medical only reasons, the answer is to shut the pubs.
But we all know now that there is a trade off re medical and economy.
If people followed SD and best practice, I doubt we'd be needing these latest restrictions. But they don't. So, trying to keep the trade off reasonable they have decided to limit the opportunities to ignore SD. Pubs etc are where SD deteriorates the more that drinking continues.
Which is why pubic order problems occur at end of hours than at the beginning- fact-( ask Billyboots)
Therefore an earlier time was eeded to be chosen. It compromised at 10pm

 

[Swinglowandslow]

There we go again tarring a whole generation with the same brush, I’ve come across far more ignorant middle/old aged people over Covid than young people.

Then you haven't been watching the same news programmes as me?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Because ideally, for medical,on medical only reasons, the answer is to shut the pubs.
But we all know now that there is a trade off re medical and economy.
If people followed SD and best practice, I doubt we'd be needing these latest restrictions. But they don't. So, trying to keep the trade off reasonable they have decided to limit the opportunities to ignore SD. Pubs etc are where SD deteriorates the more that drinking continues.
Which is why pubic order problems occur at end of hours than at the beginning- fact-( ask Billyboots)
Therefore an earlier time was eeded to be chosen. It compromised at 10pm

So no chance people will drink excessively in the reduced time they have and then no chance of trouble being caused!

The pub question was merely an example, but let’s be honest, stupid people will get drunk and misbehave regardless of pubs being open or shut.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Then you haven't been watching the same news programmes as me?

I see it up the Golf Club with the seniors and in shops were old people are wearing masks below the nose.

Was it only old people celebrating VE Day and taking part in the BLM Protests or on the beaches down south because I’m sure we were told they were all going to cause spikes and didn’t.

 

[Reemul]

I see it up the Golf Club with the seniors and in shops were old people are wearing masks below the nose.

Was it only old people celebrating VE Day and taking part in the BLM Protests or on the beaches down south because I’m sure we were told they were all going to cause spikes and didn’t.

I have to disagree, while about and about 90% of the people ignoring the rules are younger under 30's. Sure there are the odd elderly or middle aged but the groups, the sharing the masks, the not having masks etc etc are all younger. This might not be true across the country but it is where I liv, just walk the pubs and watch, not great outside of them either.

Last night I popped to Tesco for something we had run out of and I saw 5 people without masks, all between 18 and 25 sure they could have all had exemptions but it's not really likely is it. I then moved on to KFC, 2 people in front of me no masks age 21ish in the take out queue. It's bloody frustrating and annoying.

 

[Jamesbrown]

I have to disagree, while about and about 90% of the people ignoring the rules are younger under 30's. Sure there are the odd elderly or middle aged but the groups, the sharing the masks, the not having masks etc etc are all younger. This might not be true across the country but it is where I liv, just walk the pubs and watch, not great outside of them either.

Last night I popped to Tesco for something we had run out of and I saw 5 people without masks, all between 18 and 25 sure they could have all had exemptions but it's not really likely is it. I then moved on to KFC, 2 people in front of me no masks age 21ish in the take out queue. It's bloody frustrating and annoying.

If you go past pubs after work hours you’ll see plenty of Young at the pub.
Go at noon at prime oap fish dinner time. The demographic is the opposite of young and they too care not. In fact from what i saw during the original lockdown from the older generation my cares went to 0. Old buggers near me couldn’t help themselves but have BBQ’s and friends and family round.

 

[apj0524]

Today we received the dreaded email, a visitor on Saturday has tested positive so club house has been closed for a deep clean and waiting to see if I get a Track and Trace call, not really expecting to but there is a slight chance as I was in the club house after the comp on saturday when the visitor was at the club

 

[road2ruin]

And so it begins.....our local supermarket (proper size one) is out of toilet roll!! This is exactly why the general public should not be trusted. Waiting for the flour and pasta to disappear next!!

 

[Billysboots]

And so it begins.....our local supermarket (proper size one) is out of toilet roll!! This is exactly why the general public should not be trusted. Waiting for the flour and pasta to disappear next!!

For pity’s sake. Of everything I have been witness to during the last six months, with the very obvious exception of untimely deaths the ludicrous and selfish panic buying of items like toilet roll has been by some distance the most depressing.

Rank stupidity seems to be way more contagious than the virus.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

And so it begins.....our local supermarket (proper size one) is out of toilet roll!! This is exactly why the general public should not be trusted. Waiting for the flour and pasta to disappear next!!

Waitrose was out of toilet roll, kitchen roll, flour and pasta on Friday. People were walking out with trollies piled full and carrying as much toilet roll as they could. HID went to both Sainsburys (to pick up prescriptions) and Waitrose to get some stuff for the in-laws and the shelves in both were pretty bare of a lot of basics