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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Was due to be off on A/L today but called into a briefing by the CEO on our current strategy and our ICU escalation plans as theatres have been ring fenced at this time to continue working as close to capacity. Some problems raised and plans looking to be adjusted Seems a robust plan in principle but like the start of the pandemic we won't know until it hots again properly. On the plus side off home now to pick up the golf stuff and an afternoon at the club (and maybe a fry up for lunch)
 
Kaz said:
I had a couple of big fillings done pre-lockdown and they have been giving me grief ever since.

Again pre-lockdown the dentist suggested it would settle down but if not root canal might be the way forward.

Since then I have suffered intermittently with it. It’s mostly tolerable but I can’t chew anything other than soft food with that side of my mouth and sometimes the serious pain recurs. Also, my teeth no longer seem to fit properly - i think the filled ones are now too big and that’s quite awkward and annoying.

Anyway, I finally cracked and called the dentist and, as expected, they are still not allowed to do NHS treatment. However, they can do it privately!

That makes no sense to me - is it safer because I’m paying? Insurance differences maybe?

I’m not pleased about having to pay obviously, but is it fair that, as someone who can afford it, I can get treatment while others can’t?
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My dentist told me that due to the extra costs involved at the minute with PPE etc they aren't doing NHS work apart from emergency extractions. If you pay to have it done privately then you are also paying for these additional costs as part of your treatment.
 
robinthehood said:
When I look at the political threads, it's the same person over and over again being antagonistic and insulting to others . Surely it would've made sense to deal with that rather than the sledgehammer approach.
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Wrong to single out one person, there’s a few on here (myself included) who have strayed over the line and some others who are not as innocent as they like to portray.
 
pauldj42 said:
Wrong to single out one person, there’s a few on here (myself included) who have strayed over the line and some others who are not as innocent as they like to portray.
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And there are a few (not you) who are now trying to pretend they frown at all the political stuff when they were waist deep in it at the time.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
That's a prime example of twisting the truth. It's you who has started bringing in the politics under the guise of mentioning the Daily Mail. You and Ethan go on from there.
The only "other side " input has at that time was post 8785. Until then your political "opponents" were keeping to the ban on political.
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It was a comment on a paper that was referring to the deficiencies of the track and trace scheme when yo would not expect them to do such a thing. That track and trace system that is widely acknowledged to bethe major thing that we need to get right in order to be able to function vaguely as a society and economy. Sorry if that is too 'political' for you.

As for political opponents then who are they? Haven't voted Labour for many years so is my political opponent pauldj42 then? The mild mannered socialist do gooder wanting a fairer society for all?;)
 
road2ruin said:
Surely the 2 week circuit break is a horse that has already bolted now isn't it? The virus is endemic within society so the only way to properly get rid would be a military style lockdown for a period that ensures the virus dies out. A 2 week lockdown just means the cases drop but then we come out of this period and we start again. It will achieve nothing that I can see bar extending the period.
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Even if we did this, would it not have to be a world wide lockdown; no good us locking down if the moment we open the borders again to countries that haven't do that, surely we welcome the virus back?
 
Blue in Munich said:
Even if we did this, would it not have to be a world wide lockdown; no good us locking down if the moment we open the borders again to countries that haven't do that, surely we welcome the virus back?
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This is where I am stuck. Not advocating one side or the other and certainly not advocating a free for all but it would appear that however tight you lock down, whatever restrictions you put in place, the virus finds a way back. I am looking at other countries more than the UK here where it was believed to have been wiped out. I really hate to admit it but I cannot see any way forward aside from focusing on dealing with the cases when people are infected rather than trying to stop the spread. I would be really glad if someone could point out the workable alternative (pre any vaccine) but I just cannot see a longer term solution that would work.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Even if we did this, would it not have to be a world wide lockdown; no good us locking down if the moment we open the borders again to countries that haven't do that, surely we welcome the virus back?
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You are right... That is why we have the air corridor. if your healthy you can come in, else no. Some countries (incl UK) have a 14 day home quarantine, some (parts of India) have institutional quarantine, some required a 'fit to fly' certificate. In India you cannot fly within India without showing the Track & Trace app along with your boarding card. Some like NZ wont allow you in period. So all of these are possible.

However, the min we start doing this, people start complaining that they cant go to holidays/skiing etc. UK home quarantine is joke - i know someone who flew from a hotspot. She had to submit all her details. She had to home quarantine. The number of times the Track & Trace folks called on checking in with her... Zero.

Compared to that, in Kerala, India (which was hailed as a beacon of track & trace), someone will visit you everyday to check if you are quarantining. The local council will make arrangements for food/supplies if you cant. If they police see you loitering outside, they will beat you up too. :)
 
GB72 said:
This is where I am stuck. Not advocating one side or the other and certainly not advocating a free for all but it would appear that however tight you lock down, whatever restrictions you put in place, the virus finds a way back. I am looking at other countries more than the UK here where it was believed to have been wiped out. I really hate to admit it but I cannot see any way forward aside from focusing on dealing with the cases when people are infected rather than trying to stop the spread. I would be really glad if someone could point out the workable alternative (pre any vaccine) but I just cannot see a longer term solution that would work.
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This is the discussion that we had in the office earlier on today.

We came to the conclusion that, terms of getting rid of the virus the only way (as completely impractical as it is) would be to have a worldwide lockdown for a month. All those calling for a strict UK lockdown seem to be missing that even if we did this for a month as soon as people begin travelling in and out of the country it just returns and we go through the entire process again.

The two week lockdown suppresses the virus in certain areas however it's not practical to continually do this especially as we don't know when (or even if) a suitable vaccine will be available. You can't keep locking down areas as all it's doing is prolonging the entire process as I said earlier.
 
Mudball said:
You are right... That is why we have the air corridor. if your healthy you can come in, else no. Some countries (incl UK) have a 14 day home quarantine, some (parts of India) have institutional quarantine, some required a 'fit to fly' certificate. In India you cannot fly within India without showing the Track & Trace app along with your boarding card. Some like NZ wont allow you in period. So all of these are possible.

However, the min we start doing this, people start complaining that they cant go to holidays/skiing etc. UK home quarantine is joke - i know someone who flew from a hotspot. She had to submit all her details. She had to home quarantine. The number of times the Track & Trace folks called on checking in with her... Zero.

Compared to that, in Kerala, India (which was hailed as a beacon of track & trace), someone will visit you everyday to check if you are quarantining. The local council will make arrangements for food/supplies if you cant. If they police see you loitering outside, they will beat you up too. :)
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But is is not really possible to verify that someone is healthy - that is the whole point of quarantine. Some airlines are asking for a negative Covid test from within the last week. Waste of time. I agree home quarantine is useless unless enforced. In Oz, you have to spend 2 weeks in a Govt approved hotel and literally not leave the room.

There was a moment when the UK could have fundamentally suppressed the virus's arrival in the country, but that would have meant proper quarantine on those people coming into the country, including coming back from ski holidays in Feb and March. If you reduce the amount of virus that gets in then onward transmission is much more controllable.
 
williamalex1 said:
So is our town clock :ROFLMAO:.
But semi seriously, how many drugs are being regularly prescribed to us old codgers for the sake of it and maybe getting a few more years in an old folks home :cry::poop:, or is it just money in the drug company's pockets
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This bit reminds me of the old Bob Hope gag.....in the discussion about the merits or otherwise of getting old. So, someone, usually young, asks
"Who wants to live to be a hundred ?"

Hope....."Someone who's ninety nine."?
 
Kaz said:
I had a couple of big fillings done pre-lockdown and they have been giving me grief ever since.

Again pre-lockdown the dentist suggested it would settle down but if not root canal might be the way forward.

Since then I have suffered intermittently with it. It’s mostly tolerable but I can’t chew anything other than soft food with that side of my mouth and sometimes the serious pain recurs. Also, my teeth no longer seem to fit properly - i think the filled ones are now too big and that’s quite awkward and annoying.

Anyway, I finally cracked and called the dentist and, as expected, they are still not allowed to do NHS treatment. However, they can do it privately!

That makes no sense to me - is it safer because I’m paying? Insurance differences maybe?

I’m not pleased about having to pay obviously, but is it fair that, as someone who can afford it, I can get treatment while others can’t?
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I feel you, one of my best friends is my dentist.

He does NHS and private. But the system won't let him do my fillings on the NHS as normal! There's no way around it for the dentists unfortunately.
 
Kaz said:
I had a couple of big fillings done pre-lockdown and they have been giving me grief ever since.

Again pre-lockdown the dentist suggested it would settle down but if not root canal might be the way forward.

Since then I have suffered intermittently with it. It’s mostly tolerable but I can’t chew anything other than soft food with that side of my mouth and sometimes the serious pain recurs. Also, my teeth no longer seem to fit properly - i think the filled ones are now too big and that’s quite awkward and annoying.

Anyway, I finally cracked and called the dentist and, as expected, they are still not allowed to do NHS treatment. However, they can do it privately!

That makes no sense to me - is it safer because I’m paying? Insurance differences maybe?

I’m not pleased about having to pay obviously, but is it fair that, as someone who can afford it, I can get treatment while others can’t?
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I hadn't realised they weren't doing NHS work as I pay privately. I broke a tooth just into lockdown and finally got to see my dentist when they re-opened. Still had to pay the monthly fees which seemed a bit off but perhaps, in hindsight, it's not! I was due to have the final treatment a month ago and he had to self isolate having been home to Portugal - grrrr. Appointment on Wed which has been confirmed today so will hopefully go ahead.

I hate covid and all the blasted thing counts for. Who knows how long golf and gyms and something like normal life are going to continue as the R Rate continues to increase.
 
DanFST said:
I feel you, one of my best friends is my dentist.

He does NHS and private. But the system won't let him do my fillings on the NHS as normal! There's no way around it for the dentists unfortunately.
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As I understand, Govt has been on the path to kill off nhs dental for a few years now. Dentist hardly make money on nhs work. Covid was the final push to disincentivise it. The cost of PPE is passed on to us. We are likely to go down the American way wherein dental insurance is a big ticket item
 
I take it that the 14 day quarantine period doesn't apply if you're a millionaire footballer who plays more golf than football. Or that social distancing doesn't apply if your an idiot who worships him?
 
Beedee said:
I take it that the 14 day quarantine period doesn't apply if you're a millionaire footballer who plays more golf than football. Or that social distancing doesn't apply if your an idiot who worships him?
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If you are an elite sports player on an official tour, no quarantine is needed. If you go solo on holiday, quarantine. One of the Man U players fell foul of this recently.
 
I'm sick to the back teeth with it all. Putting restrictions back in place is a waste of time and effort. Just let everyone get on with their lives.

If your worried, stay at home or wear a mask. If you are fed up with it all, do whatever you like. That's what the Government should now be saying.
 
Crazyface said:
I'm sick to the back teeth with it all. Putting restrictions back in place is a waste of time and effort. Just let everyone get on with their lives.

If your worried, stay at home or wear a mask. If you are fed up with it all, do whatever you like. That's what the Government should now be saying.
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What a great plan - just let 500,000 people die, couldn't be easier ?
 
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