SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Not much of a holiday - and I wasn’t complaining btw..It could also knacker a 'holiday' in ICU
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
- Thread starter drdel
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Ethan
Money List Winner
The young are more likely to be asymptomatic, lots of evidence for this, but I didn't say it was exclusive.
There is decent prevalence data for people who test positive for virus, or have antibodies. There is less evidence for, although clearly a decent number of people around, who have T-cell activation which confers full or partial immunity.
Not quite that clear cut. He refused to rule it out if it was required.
That's a world away from denying its their actual plan.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Over 1,000,000 folk have joined the new Scots Test and Track app in just over a week.
Seems to be working well.
Seems to be working well.
DCB
Well-known member
It needs to be working well other wise we are going to be in a right pickle
And , yes, I did sign up on day one
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
Surely the 2 week circuit break is a horse that has already bolted now isn't it? The virus is endemic within society so the only way to properly get rid would be a military style lockdown for a period that ensures the virus dies out. A 2 week lockdown just means the cases drop but then we come out of this period and we start again. It will achieve nothing that I can see bar extending the period.
drdel
Tour Rookie
When I started this thread I thought we might share personal experiences.
Why do we have to bicker? Surely there is no need to try and beat each other up with one-upmanship claims and "I know more than you" assertions!
The virus is serious with wide ranging effects for society that will be evident for years to come.
It is a pity that, at a time when major issues like COVID19 and Brexut are in the news that these are barred subjects but that's the ruling and we should respect and live with it.
Why do we have to bicker? Surely there is no need to try and beat each other up with one-upmanship claims and "I know more than you" assertions!
The virus is serious with wide ranging effects for society that will be evident for years to come.
It is a pity that, at a time when major issues like COVID19 and Brexut are in the news that these are barred subjects but that's the ruling and we should respect and live with it.
GB72
Money List Winner
Agreed, in the early days this was really helpful, people were sharing experiences of an almost unheralded time and that helped me understand and cope and realise that what i was feeling was not unique. We were getting feedback from those in other countries (Hobbit especially) that gave a picture of the pandemic that was not on the news. It was a great thread.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
A while ago, i had a question that if Outsourcing was a problem in this case. I dont know the answer. Guardian ran an article on this
The system that is labelled “NHS test and trace” has hardly anything to do with the NHS. Each fragment of this system is contracted out to big private companies that often turn to subcontractors. So Deloitte handles the huge Lighthouse Labs that can’t get through the tests, while Serco oversees the contact-tracing system that regularly misses government targets.
Still, failure pays: Serco’s initial fee for running tracing was £108m. Then there are the consultants buzzing around this cash cow. Accenture pocketed more than £850,000 for 10 weeks’ work on the contact-tracing app – the one that still hasn’t been launched. McKinsey scooped £560,000 for six weeks’ work creating the “vision, purpose and narrative” of a new public health authority.
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/comment...t-and-trace-public-sector-boris-johnson-covid
While i am at the Guardian, came across this one.. I can understand the red rags calling ministers names, but did not expect a broadsheet to call things like Door Matt Hancock and Typhoid Dido. Are all gloves off? i wonder what the Telegraph makes of the T&T fiasco..
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-dido-star-in-a-cabaret-of-covid-cluelessness
The system that is labelled “NHS test and trace” has hardly anything to do with the NHS. Each fragment of this system is contracted out to big private companies that often turn to subcontractors. So Deloitte handles the huge Lighthouse Labs that can’t get through the tests, while Serco oversees the contact-tracing system that regularly misses government targets.
Still, failure pays: Serco’s initial fee for running tracing was £108m. Then there are the consultants buzzing around this cash cow. Accenture pocketed more than £850,000 for 10 weeks’ work on the contact-tracing app – the one that still hasn’t been launched. McKinsey scooped £560,000 for six weeks’ work creating the “vision, purpose and narrative” of a new public health authority.
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/comment...t-and-trace-public-sector-boris-johnson-covid
While i am at the Guardian, came across this one.. I can understand the red rags calling ministers names, but did not expect a broadsheet to call things like Door Matt Hancock and Typhoid Dido. Are all gloves off? i wonder what the Telegraph makes of the T&T fiasco..
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-dido-star-in-a-cabaret-of-covid-cluelessness
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Agree... Currently at the wrong end of the Testing circuit and this was a great thread. Moving the politics & name calling to another thread was a master stroke as it kept the thread clean... These issues are inter-related and no one knows the full extent of what is happening. Our view is a reflection of the side of the moon we are seeing. unfortunately, no one wants to know that the moon has a dark side...
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Especially if one member of a household was asymptomatic but on day 10 of the two week lockdown passed it on to another household member who also became asymptomatic. There's the danger that everyone would come out of the lockdown thinking it was over and then we'd see another spike. And that's without anyone bringing it in to the country on flights.
D
Deleted member 21258
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Hi,
You can see it on this link :-
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare
If you click on the three 'DATA' links on the above, it gives details for each day.
Think I also remember somewhere that you can get the data for each hospital as well, but as you haven't asked for that I wont bother having a look for it.
All data available is pointing to cases increasing (from triage/111/999 data to testing(ignoring possible false positives with increased testing & testing in hot areas) to Zoe data to hospitalisations). There can be no dispute about the increase, currently no where near March time and the big questions is will this wave increase and naturally drop back down, like in Sweden, parts of USA and what was already happening in some of the local lockdown areas(before they announced the local lockdowns!).
D
Deleted member 16999
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It’s worth, if you have time, actually going back and reading the first weeks worth of posts, quite enlightening what has happened in 6 months and how our attitudes have changed.
On another note and not aimed at anyone in particular, but the political angle was introduced on day one of the thread.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Looking at the bright side... while we get spin, atleast we don’t have deniers and alternate truth
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
It would seem to be a tactic aimed at delivering the minister's indicated strategy of just trying to keep the level of infection in the community down until a vaccine comes along. We just apply then relax - then weeks or months later the tactic is repeated.
Would be a bit like driving without braking, until our speed starts to increase too quickly and we end up going too fast, and then we firmly apply the brakes - we slow the car down to a speed we are comfortable with - then take foot off brake and on we go until we next have to apply the brake.
robinthehood
Hacker
When I look at the political threads, it's the same person over and over again being antagonistic and insulting to others . Surely it would've made sense to deal with that rather than the sledgehammer approach.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
That's the thing, they soon get hijacked by the minority who jump down the throats of those who dare have a different viewpoint. It makes you scared to post as you get a barrage of abuse if you stray offline with their comments.
Gone is sensible discussion on here at times.
robinthehood
Hacker
Yeah its worse for it,
In corona news though.. we are being encouraged to go back to the office, I went in yesterday. All very strange and capacity will only be about 30% with all the SD measures.
Seems to be a fair few who think the mask rule on trains doesnt apply to them too.
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Yes my whole family did as well.......ps should have read 'test & protect'.It needs to be working well other wise we are going to be in a right pickle
And , yes, I did sign up on day one
We have removed a few more posts straying into political territory, can we stick to normal doom and gloom or positive viewpoints please and not lower ourselves to political opinion in the thread.