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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

https://phe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

The recent cases near you/postcode searchable/viewable on the map for week 28. A new feature I believe. Doesn't appear you can change the date range currently, which is a shame.

But Masses of areas look like nil, makes you feel better where you live, if not in a hot area. Will have to check to regional data later tonight, as out of interest.

Very interesting and reassuring in some ways.
 
DRW said:
https://phe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

The recent cases near you/postcode searchable/viewable on the map for week 28. A new feature I believe. Doesn't appear you can change the date range currently, which is a shame.

But Masses of areas look like nil, makes you feel better where you live, if not in a hot area. Will have to check to regional data later tonight, as out of interest.

Very interesting and reassuring in some ways.
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am i missing something, lot of the areas are "data suppressed" not nil
 
All other areas are 2 cases or below, From the detail on the map, it says
Suppression:

Numbers from 0 to 2 (inclusive) are suppressed.

So all other areas range from 0 to 2.

Why they have done that not to sure, maybe data protection and witch hunts.:eek:

Just quickly looking at it, it works for Shropshire, think it shows 9 cases on the map and there was 11 in total for the relevant period, so a random 2 for the rest of the areas.

Gives you a idea areas not to go near as such, I don't fancy Burton or Cradley Golf club at the moment ;):LOL:
 
A pub in town been closed today due to a punter dining on Wednesday evening has been tested positive. We haven't been in but daughter and some friends have - it's a busy place. Don't think any of our friends were in on Wednesday evening.
 
Last Friday I went for a walk on the Malvern Hills. Passing one of the parking places I saw a group of people of Asian ethnicity, they had a portable gas cooker and a range of cooking untensels on a public bench table and were preparing a meal, I counted 22 people of various ages and no social distancing whatsoever. I only mention the cooker as there was a notice next to them saying 'No Barbecues, No fires of any type'

Why do they put themselves at such risk of infection knowing the death rates of BAME people, I just dont understand their mindset.
 
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Billysboots said:
I have noticed the Worldometers figures for Spain do not appear to have been updated for a couple of days. I’ve a horrible feeling we’re about to see a big spike.
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How right you were, it was reported that thousands of Brits are on holiday in Spain at the moment, it beggars belief why they thought it was a good idea to go to Spain for a holiday at the moment.
 
SocketRocket said:
Last Friday I went for a walk on the Malvern Hills. Passing one of the parking places I saw a group of people of Asian ethnicity, they had a portable gas cooker and a range of cooking untensels on a public bench table and were preparing a meal, I counted 22 people of various ages and no social distancing whatsoever. I only mention the cooker as there was a notice next to them saying 'No Barbecues, No fires of any type'

Why do they put themselves at such risk of infection knowing the death rates of BAME people, I just dont understand their mindset.
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You should have called the police immediately!
 
Rlburnside said:
How right you were, it was reported that thousands of Brits are on holiday in Spain at the moment, it beggars belief why they thought it was a good idea to go to Spain for a holiday at the moment.
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It appears Spain are not updating their figures over the weekend. About 6,000 positive tests added in total yesterday so clearly there is an issue although I can’t see anything to add context to those numbers.

The Spanish say the situation is controlled, and this may of course be down to mass testing in areas like Catalonia, where they have had a localised spike. All we can do is speculate but, on their own, the numbers are a worry.
 
Personally I wouldn’t and have no intention of travelling abroad, the Government should be commended for acting so quickly over the Spanish figures, but I can see why some people are frustrated when parts of Spain have a lower coronavirus rates than some parts of England.

I don’t know the answer but the Government seem stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
pauldj42 said:
Personally I wouldn’t and have no intention of travelling abroad, the Government should be commended for acting so quickly over the Spanish figures, but I can see why some people are frustrated when parts of Spain have a lower coronavirus rates than some parts of England.

I don’t know the answer but the Government seem stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Logically, I can see the govt altering the advice to a blanket ban on Spanish travel to a more localised one. There is no reason for the islands to be included, their numbers are well below the UK. Equally, Andalucia is also well below the UK so allow people to fly to Malaga. The ban brought in is a little like Spain blocking the UK because of spikes in Leicester and Blackburn.

Saying all that, anyone going anywhere abroad right now is taking a risk and people trying to claim otherwise and blaming the govt for this are deluding themselves.
 
pauldj42 said:
Personally I wouldn’t and have no intention of travelling abroad, the Government should be commended for acting so quickly over the Spanish figures, but I can see why some people are frustrated when parts of Spain have a lower coronavirus rates than some parts of England.

I don’t know the answer but the Government seem stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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I would agree - perhaps the only thing they could have done different would have been to highlight very clearly ten days or so ago that the increase being seen in parts of Spain could very likely and very soon lead to a quarantine being imposed at very short notice on travellers arriving from anywhere in Spain if that increase continued. But I get the problems that such a statement could make so not sure it would have made things better or worse.
 
pauldj42 said:
Personally I wouldn’t and have no intention of travelling abroad, the Government should be commended for acting so quickly over the Spanish figures, but I can see why some people are frustrated when parts of Spain have a lower coronavirus rates than some parts of England.

I don’t know the answer but the Government seem stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Think you've summed it pretty well there.

We were due to fly out in 3 days time to Spain, but we cancelled it even after it was given the ok to go because we knew there was a chance restrictions could return so wasn't worth the risk of 14 days loss of pay.

As LT says perhaps they can look at something regional in perhaps allowing Island not mainland, mind you people will moan about that to being restrictive. But whatever they choose to do your last sentence nails it they are in a rock and a hard place and will get the blame regardless as people don't want to be at fault for their own poor decisions.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I would agree - perhaps the only thing they could have done different would have been to highlight very clearly ten days or so ago that the increase being seen in parts of Spain could very likely and very soon lead to a quarantine being imposed at very short notice on travellers arriving from anywhere in Spain if that increase continued. But I get the problems that such a statement could make so not sure it would have made things better or worse.
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People have been asking the govt for clear and decisive decisions throughout this. Warning people that something may or may not happen is anything but that. They could possibly give something like an amber warning, I've just made that up incidentally, but I think being clear is the best option.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
People have been asking the govt for clear and decisive decisions throughout this. Warning people that something may or may not happen is anything but that. They could possibly give something like an amber warning, I've just made that up incidentally, but I think being clear is the best option.
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You may have made it up, but that could work in a very similar way to the military "Bikini" alert systems where the colour codes are used to highlight the current alert state.

Could easily have something in place that appears on Gov website, front of newspapers and on national news sites & SM. Everyone would see it daily and know each day where we are.
 
pauldj42 said:
Personally I wouldn’t and have no intention of travelling abroad, the Government should be commended for acting so quickly over the Spanish figures, but I can see why some people are frustrated when parts of Spain have a lower coronavirus rates than some parts of England.

I don’t know the answer but the Government seem stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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As you might expect, I have rather less sympathy for the Govt position. All along, the Govt has lurched between breezy positivity and dire warnings. They needed a constant, calm and rational message but that just isn't their style.

For weeks, the public message has been of contracting air bridges and quarantine free travel in order to allow people to have holidays. It was obvious all along that a second wave or a bump in the first wave was likely if not inevitable. I believe therefore that the Govt gave an unreasonably positive message to the average punter, who does not go to the FCO website and assumed, reasonably, that of the airlines were allowed to fly and if some countries were on a green list, it was OK. What is needed is Johnson to stand up and tell people that ALL overseas travel anywhere is strongly discouraged unless critical, and that anyone who does travel will need full and comprehensive insurance for health, repatriation and anything else that may happen. He should also instruct travel companies and airlines to offer refunds to people who have booked and wish to cancel.

The Canary Islands are farther away from the current outbreak areas (Catalonia, Aragon) than London is. The infection rate in the Canaries is approx 8 per 100k, compared to 240 per 100k in Aragon and around 11 per 100k in the UK. There is no logical reason to sweep up the Canaries in this quarantine, which is unenforced and unenforceable anyway. Testing on return is a waste of time.

I have no plans to go on an overseas holiday this year unless there is a dramatic change.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Logically, I can see the govt altering the advice to a blanket ban on Spanish travel to a more localised one. There is no reason for the islands to be included, their numbers are well below the UK. Equally, Andalucia is also well below the UK so allow people to fly to Malaga. The ban brought in is a little like Spain blocking the UK because of spikes in Leicester and Blackburn.

Saying all that, anyone going anywhere abroad right now is taking a risk and people trying to claim otherwise and blaming the govt for this are deluding themselves.
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Wolf said:
Think you've summed it pretty well there.

We were due to fly out in 3 days time to Spain, but we cancelled it even after it was given the ok to go because we knew there was a chance restrictions could return so wasn't worth the risk of 14 days loss of pay.

As LT says perhaps they can look at something regional in perhaps allowing Island not mainland, mind you people will moan about that to being restrictive. But whatever they choose to do your last sentence nails it they are in a rock and a hard place and will get the blame regardless as people don't want to be at fault for their own poor decisions.
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Ethan said:
As you might expect, I have rather less sympathy for the Govt position. All along, the Govt has lurched between breezy positivity and dire warnings. They needed a constant, calm and rational message but that just isn't their style.

For weeks, the public message has been of contracting air bridges and quarantine free travel in order to allow people to have holidays. It was obvious all along that a second wave or a bump in the first wave was likely if not inevitable. I believe therefore that the Govt gave an unreasonably positive message to the average punter, who does not go to the FCO website and assumed, reasonably, that of the airlines were allowed to fly and if some countries were on a green list, it was OK.

The Canary Islands are farther away from the current outbreak areas (Catalonia, Aragon) than London is. The infection rate in the Canaries is approx 8 per 100k, compared to 240 per 100k in Aragon and around 11 per 100k in the UK. There is no logical reason to sweep up the Canaries in this quarantine, which is unenforced and unenforceable anyway. Testing on return is a waste of time.

it seems to me the main risk of holidays in the Canaries are the flights. I have no plans to go on an overseas holiday this year unless there is a dramatic change.
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I agree with all the above, I do also have sympathy for those who have travelled and looked at the risks, ie, you live near Blackburn (for example) you have the chance to go for a break (for whatever reason deserved/undeserved) the place you are going is, in theory, safer than were you live and now because of a blanket ban you’re isolating when getting home.

I don’t blame the Government, as much as I am no supporter of them, but if blanket bans are going to be switched on and off Countries around the World for the foreseeable future something needs to change, that approach could decimate the travel industry.
 
Wolf said:
You may have made it up, but that could work in a very similar way to the military "Bikini" alert systems where the colour codes are used to highlight the current alert state.

Could easily have something in place that appears on Gov website, front of newspapers and on national news sites & SM. Everyone would see it daily and know each day where we are.
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Do the government not already have a traffic light system for travel...? It's been in place for a month or so but I cant recall seeing much in the way of 'in your face' publicly highlighting of amber and red countries...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...might-get-the-green-light-for-travel-12015872
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Do the government not already have a traffic light system for travel...? It's been in place for a month or so but I cant recall seeing much in the way of 'in your face' publicly highlighting of amber and red countries...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...might-get-the-green-light-for-travel-12015872
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They do but its not much cop and its not exactly easy to find or understand for many especially as Amber and green both mean the same thing.

If they put in an active alert system akin to the bikini system and had it in the daily paper, bbc & other news sites home pages and on SM it would solve many issues.
 
Wolf said:
They do but its not much cop and its not exactly easy to find or understand for many especially as Amber and green both mean the same thing.

If they put in an active alert system akin to the bikini system and had it in the daily paper, bbc & other news sites home pages and on SM it would solve many issues.
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I'm not convinced, some people would ignore the risks whatever the government said, go abroad and then complain.
 
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