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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Lilyhawk said:
Sweden was going for herd immunity. Numbers in Stockholm now showing 7% with antibodies. Planned operations has pretty much come to a halt, so the queues for operations is at record levels.

But I agree with you that we won’t know right or wrong and the results from this, but I’d say that it’s more likely to say that we won’t know in a year or two rather than months.
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totally agree. But one thing i do know is that we are going to have to have to get back to economic growth while this disease is still active - ie in the month or so. And that means more focus on isolating the vulerable and moving back to normality with the rest of the population. I hope we are over the wosrt and can start to rapidly work out what went wrong in care homes etc and act on it.
 
A guy from my golf club died from Covid yesterday. I have known about 10 people who have had it, two of which ended in a hospital stay. First person who I know personally that has died. Fit, healthy, mid 50s (not me, him, although I fall into this category ish). It is easy to think it won't be anyone you know, although clearly sooner or later, it will be. The flag will be at half mast when I go in later.
 
As part of our phased return I’ve been back at the office for over a week now after wfh for two months. The roads are reasonably busy each day but my drive to work is a little bit quicker than normal and I’d guess by the traffic that over half the countries workforce are back doing their jobs and yay for me, I’m not working this weekend, all good so far

However because our curfew period is still in effect we can’t actually leave the house this weekend (unless it’s for medical treatment) so it’ll feel like lockdowns starting all over again. I can get a permit to drive 30k to work but not to go outside for a 30 minute walk :(
 
My son is having to come to us for financial support as £1000 he is owned for work done in February has not appeared.

He tells us that all employees of the event management company he does the work for have been furloughed, and, given the nature of the business and the 'ad-hoc' nature of the work he gets from them, he is reluctant to contact them further to push for payment. I have a horrid feeling he may never see that money. What a mess. :(

Anyway - spoke to a neighbour yesterday who is a South West trains driver. He was on his way home from work and told us that the trains from our part of the world are basically empty - with Waterloo still very quiet. I think he said there were 30 passengers all day on the trains from our branch line.
 
Slab said:
As part of our phased return I’ve been back at the office for over a week now after wfh for two months. The roads are reasonably busy each day but my drive to work is a little bit quicker than normal and I’d guess by the traffic that over half the countries workforce are back doing their jobs and yay for me, I’m not working this weekend, all good so far

However because our curfew period is still in effect we can’t actually leave the house this weekend (unless it’s for medical treatment) so it’ll feel like lockdowns starting all over again. I can get a permit to drive 30k to work but not to go outside for a 30 minute walk :(
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You are allowed to walk as much as you like.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
My son is having to come to us for financial support as £1000 he is owned for work done in February has not appeared.

He tells us that all employees of the event management company he does the work for have been furloughed, and, given the nature of the business and the 'ad-hoc' nature of the work he gets from them, he is reluctant to contact them further to push for payment. I have a horrid feeling he may never see that money. What a mess. :(
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We are experiencing the same. Most companies are paying but some are not and digging in. It is surprising how many companies have furloughed staff who make the payments but not the ones who chase for payment :unsure:.

Do not allow him to be reluctant to chase for payment. If he has done the work he is entitled to the payment. Why should he subsidise others? Can he afford that? The answer is no so he needs to toughen up. Remember the famous words of Don Corleone, 'it's not personal, it's just business'. That is how he needs to look at it or his business will not survive.
 
Robster59 said:
So far I've lost just under a stone in weight (that's about 5-6kg to you young people). I made a conscious decision not to eat rubbish at home during the lockdown and I need to lose some weight anyway. It is tempting at time but I'm determined to keep it going.
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I've found 2lbs of what you've lost. Feel free to come and get it... I'll crack the BBQ and open the beer fridge whilst you look for the rest.
 
Mrs Wolf had an email from her HR yesterday, confirming that the company have made the decision to pay all furloughed staff 100% of their salary, looking at government guidelines likely to return in July but should that be pushed back further no matter how long they're furloughed for company are going to honour 100%. Not to bad when you consider her employer is Mike Ashley's mob ?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
We are experiencing the same. Most companies are paying but some are not and digging in. It is surprising how many companies have furloughed staff who make the payments but not the ones who chase for payment :unsure:.

Do not allow him to be reluctant to chase for payment. If he has done the work he is entitled to the payment. Why should he subsidise others? Can he afford that? The answer is no so he needs to toughen up. Remember the famous words of Don Corleone, 'it's not personal, it's just business'. That is how he needs to look at it or his business will not survive.
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Indeed we tried hard to explain that to him last night.

A chasing Email can be understanding of the situation the company is in - and can simply be asking them to acknowledge that they still have to pay him for the work he did on their behalf back in February.

But he is clearly very nervous that he might damage the good relationship he has established with them - they are a small company and the work he gets is all about the relationship he has established with the business manager and those who allocate the jobs among the reps (of which he is but one). There is also the issue that we think he feels accepting not getting paid might help keep the business afloat, and as he depends on them for more than half of his work...well...we have tried to explain that the business afloat or not is not his problem even though it folding would cause him a massive problem.

Anyway - he has started to consider that there might have to be an alternative working life outside of the performing arts sector - and so is looking into teaching (most likely as half the furloughed workforce may be doing :( )
 
Hobbit said:
I've found 2lbs of what you've lost. Feel free to come and get it... I'll crack the BBQ and open the beer fridge whilst you look for the rest.
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I lost more weight earlier this week when my wife cleaned the hairy growth from the back of my neck than I have lost over the last 7 weeks.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed we tried hard to explain that to him last night.

A chasing Email can be understanding of the situation the company is in - and can simply be asking them to acknowledge that they still have to pay him for the work he did on their behalf back in February.

But he is clearly very nervous that he might damage the good relationship he has established with them - they are a small company and the work he gets is all about the relationship he has established with the business manager and those who allocate the jobs among the reps (of which he is but one). There is also the issue that we think he feels accepting not getting paid might help keep the business afloat, and as he depends on them for more than half of his work...well...we have tried to explain that the business afloat or not is not his problem even though it folding would cause him a massive problem.

Anyway - he has started to consider that there might have to be an alternative working life outside of the performing arts sector - and so is looking into teaching (most likely as half the furloughed workforce may be doing :( )
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I dont think he has a "good " relationship with them - they're not paying him.
In times like these there's no room for sitting back.
He's owed the money, he's got to fight for it.
They might not be there to return to with or without his money.
He needs to get it.
If asking for payment for work done months ago damages a relationship then there wasn't much of one to start with.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed we tried hard to explain that to him last night.

A chasing Email can be understanding of the situation the company is in - and can simply be asking them to acknowledge that they still have to pay him for the work he did on their behalf back in February.

But he is clearly very nervous that he might damage the good relationship he has established with them - they are a small company and the work he gets is all about the relationship he has established with the business manager and those who allocate the jobs among the reps (of which he is but one). There is also the issue that we think he feels accepting not getting paid might help keep the business afloat, and as he depends on them for more than half of his work...well...we have tried to explain that the business afloat or not is not his problem even though it folding would cause him a massive problem.

Anyway - he has started to consider that there might have to be an alternative working life outside of the performing arts sector - and so is looking into teaching (most likely as half the furloughed workforce may be doing :( )
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Guess he could do some harvesting.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed we tried hard to explain that to him last night.

A chasing Email can be understanding of the situation the company is in - and can simply be asking them to acknowledge that they still have to pay him for the work he did on their behalf back in February.

But he is clearly very nervous that he might damage the good relationship he has established with them - they are a small company and the work he gets is all about the relationship he has established with the business manager and those who allocate the jobs among the reps (of which he is but one). There is also the issue that we think he feels accepting not getting paid might help keep the business afloat, and as he depends on them for more than half of his work...well...we have tried to explain that the business afloat or not is not his problem even though it folding would cause him a massive problem.

Anyway - he has started to consider that there might have to be an alternative working life outside of the performing arts sector - and so is looking into teaching (most likely as half the furloughed workforce may be doing :( )
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One thing he may want to try. In communication with them, I would imagine when invoicing, chasing money etc it is email, create a ficticious accounts person. Male or female, take your pick. That 'person' deals with chasing payments, they are separate from your son. That keeps his working relationship separate and untouched. If someone ever rings for them, they are busy, on holiday, only work a couple of days a week etc. That person can be a little more aggressive and impersonal when chasing accounts. It gets back to Don Corelone. It is a good trick and surprisingly effective for 1 man bands, small companies etc who do not employ an accounts person. (I may or may not be talking from personal experience ;))

Imurg has made a great point in his post, if they are not paying him is the relationship really that good or is it just one way? He needs to be more business like or it will just end up being a glorified hobby.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
One thing he may want to try. In communication with them, I would imagine when invoicing, chasing money etc it is email, create a ficticious accounts person. Male or female, take your pick. That 'person' deals with chasing payments, they are separate from your son. That keeps his working relationship separate and untouched. If someone ever rings for them, they are busy, on holiday, only work a couple of days a week etc. That person can be a little more aggressive and impersonal when chasing accounts. It gets back to Don Corelone. It is a good trick and surprisingly effective for 1 man bands, small companies etc who do not employ an accounts person. (I may or may not be talking from personal experience ;))
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This is something that I do with 'Alan' in accounts. Alan has his own email address and can be a real pain when he starts chasing invoice payments, he's even threatened to start adding interest to a couple of invoices for those particularly slow at getting things sorted. It does allow me to be more understanding of the companies situation however there isn't much I can do when accounts (Alan) starts chasing as that's his role and who am I to get in the way of him doing what he gets paid for.
 
road2ruin said:
This is something that I do with 'Alan' in accounts. Alan has his own email address and can be a real pain when he starts chasing invoice payments, he's even threatened to start adding interest to a couple of invoices for those particularly slow at getting things sorted. It does allow me to be more understanding of the companies situation however there isn't much I can do when accounts (Alan) starts chasing as that's his role and who am I to get in the way of him doing what he gets paid for.
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Perfect :LOL:, that is exactly how it works. 'John' used to be our attack dog. John has now moved into the warehouse and is the fall guy for any incorrect shipments sent out.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed we tried hard to explain that to him last night.

A chasing Email can be understanding of the situation the company is in - and can simply be asking them to acknowledge that they still have to pay him for the work he did on their behalf back in February.

But he is clearly very nervous that he might damage the good relationship he has established with them - they are a small company and the work he gets is all about the relationship he has established with the business manager and those who allocate the jobs among the reps (of which he is but one). There is also the issue that we think he feels accepting not getting paid might help keep the business afloat, and as he depends on them for more than half of his work...well...we have tried to explain that the business afloat or not is not his problem even though it folding would cause him a massive problem.

Anyway - he has started to consider that there might have to be an alternative working life outside of the performing arts sector - and so is looking into teaching (most likely as half the furloughed workforce may be doing :( )
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As others have said there is no relationship if he isn't being paid and should do everything to chase what is owed.

However that aside I'm pleased to hear he is considering other options such as teaching, will give him a more stable income in a very rewarding career, will be better for his wellbeing knowing he has regular income in a sector thats always going to be needed and hopefully would mean less stress and reliance on you and Mrs SILH. That's a good news takeout of this and I wish him well ??
 
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