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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Dando said:
The lockdown and working from home is taking its toll and I’m struggling with my depression.
Can’t get to my caravan either to escape from things.
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Dandy dear boy, if you want to talk I’m only at the other of the phone/Skype/whatsapp etc mate. I’ll probably bore you to sleep and you won’t get much of a word in but the Offer stand.

Keep yer chin up and try and stay positive mate??
 
AmandaJR said:
Agreed. It's too early to know but to come out of this we really need both a vaccine, and to know what immunity and for how long having the disease provides.
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Could be, however, another little glimmer of hope is that Chelsea and a Westminster hospitals are doing trials with already licensed medicines that will, hopefully, drastically lessen the effects of the virus so that it isn't as dangerous as it presently is.
Doesn't stop you getting it, but doesn't kill like now.
If they work, it will help us out of lockdown big time.
 
Dando said:
The lockdown and working from home is taking its toll and I’m struggling with my depression.
Can’t get to my caravan either to escape from things.
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The best thing is to talk it through with someone, the old proverb of a problem shared is a problem halved. If you want someone to talk to there are lots here. We dont know each other but if you would like to talk anything through then please PM me for my details. Dont keep it to your self.
 
SocketRocket said:
The best thing is to talk it through with someone, the old proverb of a problem shared is a problem halved. If you want someone to talk to there are lots here. We dont know each other but if you would like to talk anything through then please PM me for my details. Dont keep it to your self.
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The same as above.
Depression ................................. been there, done that.
It IS beatable, hang in there.
 
Tough weekend getting used to the news we face another month of curfew here. A few drinks and a nice cigar got me through Saturday and a chat with friends online helped yesterday ('misery loves company' an all that)
 
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For those worrying how will we ever return to normal again, how will people move around etc. This is a picture taken last week by someone I know out in Shenzhen. It will happen, we will be doing the same shortly (no, I wont define shortly :D). We will get past the 2m fixation we currently have, although it was there and is there now for good reason.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
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For those worrying how will we ever return to normal again, how will people move around etc. This is a picture taken last week by someone I know out in Shenzhen. It will happen, we will be doing the same shortly (no, I wont define shortly :D). We will get past the 2m fixation we currently have, although it was there and is there now for good reason.
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Probably sufficient indication as to why we'll not be using public transport anytime soon... Think we'll be waiting for a vaccine to be available before we resume use of our bus passes...
 
Reading an article in the ST yesterday by Matthew Syed musing that Life is for Living, Not Existing

His view as that so much of what we are doing now, and will have to do in the coming years - is all about staying healthy - existing - and that that is not what living is about.

As I am at a point in life when I could consider 'hanging up my boots' - I reflect on that and seriously ponder whether my work stress is worth it. And feeling quite low about things given my wife's scare of last two weeks and our circumstances - circumstances that have highlighted that we do actually only have so much time.

And so as Syed suggests we have to consider what risk we must accept in our life. Because so much of what we do in normal life does include an element of risk - we just managed it - either personally or with the help of the state.

..so here I am - another week of what will be stressy work - and you know - I could simply be spending it sitting with my Mrs. And is that not something they say about having a life partner - just someone you can sit with, saying and doing nothing with each other, other than just being with.

And so even in this time of lockdown I feel that I should be spending more time just 'being with' my wife - not stressing and being irritable because of work, and when lockdown is relaxed and we can do things - even limited things - then we should just take the risk, manage it - and get on with living - not simply existing.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Reading an article in the ST yesterday by Matthew Syed musing that Life is for Living, Not Existing

His view as that so much of what we are doing now, and will have to do in the coming years - is all about staying healthy - existing - and that that is not what living is about.

As I am at a point in life when I could consider 'hanging up my boots' - I reflect on that and seriously ponder whether my work stress is worth it. And feeling quite low about things given my wife's scare of last two weeks and our circumstances - circumstances that have highlighted that we do actually only have so much time.

And so as Syed suggests we have to consider what risk we must accept in our life. Because so much of what we do in normal life does include an element of risk - we just managed it - either personally or with the help of the state.

..so here I am - another week of what will be stressy work - and you know - I could simply be spending it sitting with my Mrs. And is that not something they say about having a life partner - just someone you can sit with, saying and doing nothing with each other, other than just being with.

And so even in this time of lockdown I feel that I should be spending more time just 'being with' my wife - not stressing and being irritable because of work, and when lockdown is relaxed and we can do things - even limited things - then we should just take the risk, manage it - and get on with living - not simply existing.
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Its a tough one Hugh. I had a similar conversation with HID few days back. Making a raw assumption of 3 score years and 10 I have 8 years left, plus a few months. How much of the New Normal do I want? How much of the New Normal would be comfortable? But its not just about the risk we are willing to accept. If we are selfish and do the wrongs things its not just us we are risking.

At the end of the day do we live to the limit of any new regulations or do we accept we're the wrong side of 60 and take a few extra precautions? No doubt we'll all come to our own decisions on that one.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Reading an article in the ST yesterday by Matthew Syed musing that Life is for Living, Not Existing

His view as that so much of what we are doing now, and will have to do in the coming years - is all about staying healthy - existing - and that that is not what living is about.

As I am at a point in life when I could consider 'hanging up my boots' - I reflect on that and seriously ponder whether my work stress is worth it. And feeling quite low about things given my wife's scare of last two weeks and our circumstances - circumstances that have highlighted that we do actually only have so much time.

And so as Syed suggests we have to consider what risk we must accept in our life. Because so much of what we do in normal life does include an element of risk - we just managed it - either personally or with the help of the state.

..so here I am - another week of what will be stressy work - and you know - I could simply be spending it sitting with my Mrs. And is that not something they say about having a life partner - just someone you can sit with, saying and doing nothing with each other, other than just being with.

And so even in this time of lockdown I feel that I should be spending more time just 'being with' my wife - not stressing and being irritable because of work, and when lockdown is relaxed and we can do things - even limited things - then we should just take the risk, manage it - and get on with living - not simply existing.
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Sorry to hear of your potential problems
What is your line of work SILH? Realise you have your son in Sheffield which has causEd you worry in the past re finances etc and Mrs SILH health. MIL and brother also.

For want it is worth if your own circumstances are such with projected pensions, mortgage, earnings and you can afford to have quality time with your loved ones make the most of it NOW and leave.

Whilst a huge decision, prioritising is essential in life and none of us know what is round the corner.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
Hobbit said:
Its a tough one Hugh. I had a similar conversation with HID few days back. Making a raw assumption of 3 score years and 10 I have 8 years left, plus a few months. How much of the New Normal do I want? How much of the New Normal would be comfortable? But its not just about the risk we are willing to accept. If we are selfish and do the wrongs things its not just us we are risking.

At the end of the day do we live to the limit of any new regulations or do we accept we're the wrong side of 60 and take a few extra precautions? No doubt we'll all come to our own decisions on that one.
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Your words are spot on. It's not going to be 'just about us'. Though we try to live our lives with consideration to and of others - the Common Weal, we will have to accept a new social responsibility pact - a pact that will impact upon what we do in ways that we never previously had to consider. But so be it. we are very much better equipped than many to be able to do that and to live a full life within new constraints.

And I didn't spot - though it is pretty obvious on reflection - that we must be 'ages' with each other as I'm an August 58 baby :)
 
3offTheTee said:
Sorry to hear of your potential problems
What is your line of work SILH? Realise you have your son in Sheffield which has causEd you worry in the past re finances etc and Mrs SILH health. MIL and brother also.

For want it is worth if your own circumstances are such with projected pensions, mortgage, earnings and you can afford to have quality time with your loved ones make the most of it NOW and leave.

Whilst a huge decision, prioritising is essential in life and none of us know what is round the corner.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Many thanks 3offTheTee - I am a PM running projects putting new networks into some large London hospitals...stressy at the moment.

We are very fortunate in that we have been able to sort our month-to-month finances - so no mortgage, overdraft or credit cards - and a couple of loans (car and home improvement) that we'll clear immediately I finish work using the 25% tax free when I move my company pension fund. We rearranged our finances to minimise our outgoing 18months ago to enable me to take 6months unpaid leave for us to go travelling for four months down under and SE Asia this time last year. And thank the Lord that we did that. So yes - I very much get your exhortation - do the big things whilst you can...so, so very true, It's the big next step...the big decision...

My wife's NHS pension basically covers our monthly house outgoings. It's then simply how much I pull down from my shrunken pension pot for spending. But as concerned as I might be about that, I am frankly not too worried in the bigger picture, as we have a bit of savings sufficient to cover maybe 18months spending (on top of bills) without my touching my pension pot - giving it a bit of time to do something of a recovery.

And so we will probably wait until my next birthday in August then we'll make the call...

If I can wait that 3 and half months :)
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Reading an article in the ST yesterday by Matthew Syed musing that Life is for Living, Not Existing

His view as that so much of what we are doing now, and will have to do in the coming years - is all about staying healthy - existing - and that that is not what living is about.

As I am at a point in life when I could consider 'hanging up my boots' - I reflect on that and seriously ponder whether my work stress is worth it. And feeling quite low about things given my wife's scare of last two weeks and our circumstances - circumstances that have highlighted that we do actually only have so much time.

And so as Syed suggests we have to consider what risk we must accept in our life. Because so much of what we do in normal life does include an element of risk - we just managed it - either personally or with the help of the state.

..so here I am - another week of what will be stressy work - and you know - I could simply be spending it sitting with my Mrs. And is that not something they say about having a life partner - just someone you can sit with, saying and doing nothing with each other, other than just being with.

And so even in this time of lockdown I feel that I should be spending more time just 'being with' my wife - not stressing and being irritable because of work, and when lockdown is relaxed and we can do things - even limited things - then we should just take the risk, manage it - and get on with living - not simply existing.
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There is a middle way you could consider. You may find after a period of enjoying life free from the stresses work can bring that you start to miss the interaction with people. Maybe consider some part time work, you could consider a charity or even something like the National trust or even a golf club.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Your words are spot on. It's not going to be 'just about us'. Though we try to live our lives with consideration to and of others - the Common Weal, we will have to accept a new social responsibility pact - a pact that will impact upon what we do in ways that we never previously had to consider. But so be it. we are very much better equipped than many to be able to do that and to live a full life within new constraints.

And I didn't spot - though it is pretty obvious on reflection - that we must be 'ages' with each other as I'm an August 58 baby :)
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You're an old man next to me H - end of Oct '58 for me.
 
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