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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
If the number matters to the extent that it is repeated by ministers almost whenever asked about PPE - then I might ask why not - because they must know to have come up with the figure? Without knowing how the number is made up it is rather meaningless...and if I was inclined I could flip this on it's head and suggest that you don't think it necessary as it might expose the 1bn figure as a little bit of smoke and mirrors. But I won't - as that would be getting political and so not for here.
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So despite saying you're not comment further you do. As others have said there is nothing we can do to justify the figures and indeed the information you are being given. You can either choose to accept them to some degree or not. Either way how about rather than speculating on whether the government is telling the whole truth and using the thread to spin your own political views a la the brexit thread let them get on with it and judge them when we get out of lockdown and how we cope with the recovery as a truer litmus test of their ability to govern and get the economy and business back on track.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So despite saying you're not comment further you do. As others have said there is nothing we can do to justify the figures and indeed the information you are being given. You can either choose to accept them to some degree or not. Either way how about rather than speculating on whether the government is telling the whole truth and using the thread to spin your own political views a la the brexit thread let them get on with it and judge them when we get out of lockdown and how we cope with the recovery as a truer litmus test of their ability to govern and get the economy and business back on track.
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May be and I am not saying this is the case but often happens is no one wants to be the bearer of bad news.. little not so good details get lost because the person your telling doesn’t listen or accept them .. often with lines of you can sort that out or just rearrange this, without understanding that you have progressed all of those and it is what it is .. so maybe the line or chain is too long and has someone who just wants to look good. But is in the end making the person look silly.
 
On a positive note, a reasonable number of patients left ICU today to rehabilitate on a ward. However we have seen a trend of overnight admissions so not getting too excited yet. I even heard discussions going on about plateau planning
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So despite saying you're not comment further you do. As others have said there is nothing we can do to justify the figures and indeed the information you are being given. You can either choose to accept them to some degree or not. Either way how about rather than speculating on whether the government is telling the whole truth and using the thread to spin your own political views a la the brexit thread let them get on with it and judge them when we get out of lockdown and how we cope with the recovery as a truer litmus test of their ability to govern and get the economy and business back on track.
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I’m not asking the figure to be justified, and I am not suggesting it’s not true. I’d simply like to have some idea - say - of how many gowns are in that number - because then I‘ll have a better idea of where 400,000 gowns from Turkey fits in the scheme of things. Like many people in this country we have close friends and relatives slap bang on the front line and I worry about them not having such as the gowns and masks that they need. On the 1bn the government has nothing to worry about - just be open and clear about what the number means if they are going to continue to use it. Or stop using it.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I’m not asking the figure to be justified, and I am not suggesting it’s not true. I’d simply like to have some idea - say - of how many gowns are in that number - because then I‘ll have a better idea of where 400,000 gowns from Turkey fits in the scheme of things. Like many people in this country we have close friends and relatives slap bang on the front line and I worry about them not having such as the gowns and masks that they need. On the 1bn the government has nothing to worry about - just be open and clear about what the number means if they are going to continue to use it. Or stop using it.
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If they broke each consignment into individual items and posted it on the . GOV site how on earth could that be of any use to you. Its like asking the MOD to post the same for munitions so people with family in the Services could see if there was enough to go around. It's pointless.
 
SocketRocket said:
If they broke each consignment into individual items and posted it on the . GOV site how on earth could that be of any use to you. Its like asking the MOD to post the same for munitions so people with family in the Services could see if there was enough to go around. It's pointless.
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As the rate of attrition changes, depending on how many patients/staff are in hospital at any one time, its absolutely pointless going forward what was bought 2 weeks ago let alone a month ago.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I’m not asking the figure to be justified, and I am not suggesting it’s not true. I’d simply like to have some idea - say - of how many gowns are in that number - because then I‘ll have a better idea of where 400,000 gowns from Turkey fits in the scheme of things. Like many people in this country we have close friends and relatives slap bang on the front line and I worry about them not having such as the gowns and masks that they need. On the 1bn the government has nothing to worry about - just be open and clear about what the number means if they are going to continue to use it. Or stop using it.
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It simply makes no difference or no sense to break the numbers down. Far better to ensure those on the frontline are getting WHAT THEY NEED rather than worry if we've over ordered on gloves. Why keep repeating the same nonsense? I'm on the frontline and I know the issues our technicians and management are having and what we are short of but as long as we've enough PPE to allow our staff to work safely I don't care what percentage of the gowns come from Turkey
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Hearing again today - this time from Dominic Raab when asked about supplies of PPE - about the 1,000,000,000 items of PPE that have so far been delivered during this period of crisis. Is it OK to ask how this is made up without being accused of being political? All very well telling us a huge number if 95% of that number is single-use disposable gloves.
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Not a good start. Massive surge in new patients and deaths blocked sinks to get fixed and big holes in today's roster to fill. It's definitely affecting me and finding it hard to feel enthused and positive each morning as I come in and a certain dread logging in
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Not a good start. Massive surge in new patients and deaths blocked sinks to get fixed and big holes in today's roster to fill. It's definitely affecting me and finding it hard to feel enthused and positive each morning as I come in and a certain dread logging in
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It’s called the frontline for a reason, you put all those thoughts and feelings to one side, smile and get stuck in, just like the whistle in the trenches, you just take a breath and go up & over....

Whatever roles you’re actively involved in, people worse than you need you, be strong and crack on ?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Not a good start. Massive surge in new patients and deaths blocked sinks to get fixed and big holes in today's roster to fill. It's definitely affecting me and finding it hard to feel enthused and positive each morning as I come in and a certain dread logging in
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A blocked sink today is the same as a blocked sink 6 months ago. A gap on the rota today is the same as a gap on the rota 6 months ago. And, sadly, the Unit hasn’t had a 100% success rate over the last 6 months either.

Pick up the phone and ring Facilities. Then pick up the phone and ring round to fill your rota.

Compartmentalise, don’t let it become a tsunami of problems. It will overwhelm you if you do.

You care for your colleagues. You want the best for them. Roll the sleeves up, paint the smile on and give them your best.
 
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