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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Rlburnside said:
150 Romanian fruit pickers have just come to this country, not got a problem with this as everyone has to do what they think is best for their families.
But it is a sad indictment of this country that appeals for local workers were not taken up, I know the pay will be very low but I would have thought young adults would have been glad to get out of the house and do some work
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There's been mixed messages about this... Early reports that there was interest from 'locals' turned into no there wasn't then I read/heard there was... Suspect it's a lot to do with being less than minimum wage payment...
 
MegaSteve said:
There's been mixed messages about this... Early reports that there was interest from 'locals' turned into no there wasn't then I read/heard there was... Suspect it's a lot to do with being less than minimum wage payment...
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How legal is "less than the minimum wage?" I sincerely hope that if this is the case that someone has the wherewithal to take it to court. What a sad indictment on the UK, if this is the case.
 
Saw something which I dare say many people have seen. It revolved around who is the most susceptible, i.e. the older generation. It went something like, "if it was the younger generation that were more susceptible their parents would step in front of a bus to save them. At the very least they would stay in. Maybe the younger generation should consider that before they go out."

To be honest, I'd like to think that a lot of the reports are the usual media hype.
 
Hobbit said:
Saw something which I dare say many people have seen. It revolved around who is the most susceptible, i.e. the older generation. It went something like, "if it was the younger generation that were more susceptible their parents would step in front of a bus to save them. At the very least they would stay in. Maybe the younger generation should consider that before they go out."

To be honest, I'd like to think that a lot of the reports are the usual media hype.
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I think most, if not all of these posts are purely anecdotal.

I see more older people ignoring social distancing when out shopping, but at the same time have seen my younger neighbours blatantly going out with friends more.

Imo age is not a deciding factor for people's selfishness/disregard of the rules.
 
The news keeps showing young healthy people suffering... trying to counter the, it’s only certain groups affected.

Perhaps it’s a bit simpler, those who are silly and those who are not with respect to risk taking. I suspect if your really silly you usually don’t get old.
 
maxfli65 said:
Noticeably more people out for 'exercise' along my street today walking in 2s, 3s and 4s. Happens to be the warmest sunniest day for quite a while too.:whistle:
Is that happening elsewhere?
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It has been for awhile, in the woods were I take the dogs is littered with people. Someone was caught procreating in there yesterday. Sometimes only ever see one or two dog walkers, most of the time nobody. Sort of spoils it for me really now. Wouldn’t mind getting in the car and getting away from people to be frank.
 
Interested to hear about the look into the disproportionate number of BAME deaths and infections https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-52292569 . Looking at the demographics, there is definitely a clear trend that Asian and males in particular have been the biggest percentage through our doors. Similarly New York has seen the Hispanics hit hardest so there has to be a way particular ethnic groups seem so susceptible
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I just don't understand how the schools could reopen a week or two after the next period of lockdown unless we have a solid testing regime in place for us all - or at least for all children. That children who pick up the virus might not be affected is one thing - but they can still share it around and bring it home...

Sorry - don't get it. what am I missing...?
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I was thinking much the same, but if everyone has been in isolation for 4 weeks they should be virus free :confused:
 
AmandaJR said:
NO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN RESTRICTIONS WILL BE LIFTED.

For heaven's sake stop asking that flipping question. They'll be lifted when appropriate.
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Exactly
Blimey!
The first question, the very first one at the Daily briefing shows to me that these( all right, some, don't tar all etc ) journalists do not listen to the briefing because they are asking questions already answered in the briefing.
Or, they have listened, but still insist on their original question.
Raab clearly said about the continued lockdown and no anticipated change yet until there was further consideration based on future evidence.
They are showing themselves up
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Interested to hear about the look into the disproportionate number of BAME deaths and infections https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-52292569 . Looking at the demographics, there is definitely a clear trend that Asian and males in particular have been the biggest percentage through our doors. Similarly New York has seen the Hispanics hit hardest so there has to be a way particular ethnic groups seem so susceptible
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In Sweden you can see similar things, but where Swedish Somalis stand out with a disproportionate amount of deaths. Believe it to be 3-folded why; a lot of taxi drivers, catching it while working, large families across generations living in small flats, and also weak knowledge of Swedish to be able to follow news, public health advice etc.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Exactly
Blimey!
The first question, the very first one at the Daily briefing shows to me that these( all right, some, don't tar all etc ) journalists do not listen to the briefing because they are asking questions already answered in the briefing.
Or, they have listened, but still insist on their original question.
Raab clearly said about the continued lockdown and no anticipated change yet until there was further consideration based on future evidence.
They are showing themselves up
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IMO they are simply asking the questions that many of the public want to hear an answer for. I may be coping OK in lockdown - but many will be really struggling and just want the question asked - and want t hear an answer as soon as one starts to materialise.

I must also reflect upon the last time a plan was sought from the government - none of any substance was forthcoming as we were told that there was one but that we didn't need to know - subsequent events suggested that there might not have been much of a plan in place all that time. In any case. Some folks just need to have something - even simply a framework - to hang their hat on - give them some feeling of what must start to be evident for tings to start being relaxed.

Truth is I'm just playing Devil's Advocate on this. I can see how difficult and dangerous it could be to disclose a 'plan'. But the question should still be asked.
 
williamalex1 said:
I was thinking much the same, but if everyone has been in isolation for 4 weeks they should be virus free :confused:
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Disregarding the people that don’t follow the rules for the moment, the are a lot of key workers going out and facing the public, then there are key workers like me that don’t face the public but still enter buildings where others are ( but not within2 meters) or have been. I have worked in 5 different work places this week and a lot of my colleagues have been in quite a few more.
The official line at my work is that we can work within 2 meters of each other if the work is essential as long as we ask each other questions about our health first and not work up close for more than 15 minutes but can do it without PPE!
Then there are the people working/ isolating at home that still can go to the supermarket and exercise.
 
Ross61 said:
Disregarding the people that don’t follow the rules for the moment, the are a lot of key workers going out and facing the public, then there are key workers like me that don’t face the public but still enter buildings where others are ( but not within2 meters) or have been. I have worked in 5 different work places this week and a lot of my colleagues have been in quite a few more.
The official line at my work is that we can work within 2 meters of each other if the work is essential as long as we ask each other questions about our health first and not work up close for more than 15 minutes but can do it without PPE!
Then there are the people working/ isolating at home that still can go to the supermarket and exercise.
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Exactly. We are dealing with infected people everyday and even with PPE there is an inherent risk. That's before you take into account people still shopping and not knowing who has it and whether it's on any surfaces.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
IMO they are simply asking the questions that many of the public want to hear an answer for. I may be coping OK in lockdown - but many will be really struggling and just want the question asked - and want t hear an answer as soon as one starts to materialise.
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But why ask a question when its completely obvious there isn't currently an answer..?
It's a waste of time, does nothing to quell any fears people may have, in fact it probably raises anxiety levels as the answer isnt "a week next Thursday ".
I actually dont knowingly they bother with thenbreifing.
Just release a statement - these questions and non answers cause more problems than they solve.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
IMO they are simply asking the questions that many of the public want to hear an answer for. I may be coping OK in lockdown - but many will be really struggling and just want the question asked - and want t hear an answer as soon as one starts to materialise.

I must also reflect upon the last time a plan was sought from the government - none of any substance was forthcoming as we were told that there was one but that we didn't need to know - subsequent events suggested that there might not have been much of a plan in place all that time. In any case. Some folks just need to have something - even simply a framework - to hang their hat on - give them some feeling of what must start to be evident for tings to start being relaxed.

Truth is I'm just playing Devil's Advocate on this. I can see how difficult and dangerous it could be to disclose a 'plan'. But the question should still be asked.
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You make a very valid point. Many Expats out here live in apartments, as do many Spanish. They often make the point that getting out with our restrictions is impossible, and some of them are climbing the walls.

Lets not forget that those of us with plenty of room, only two of us at home, or with decent outside space are quite privileged compared to others.
 
Imurg said:
But why ask a question when its completely obvious there isn't currently an answer..?
It's a waste of time, does nothing to quell any fears people may have, in fact it probably raises anxiety levels as the answer isnt "a week next Thursday ".
I actually dont knowingly they bother with thenbreifing.
Just release a statement - these questions and non answers cause more problems than they solve.
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i actually turn off once they get to questions. I think it will come to the point when no press can actually ask questions.
 
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