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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
And the answer would be no. If you asked me to set up a home office from scratch and pay for it out of my pocket the answer would be a quick, derisory laugh and a no.
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If you have a table and a chair in a house you have an office. I set my first business up like that, built my own desktop from bits I scrounged ( box and monitor) .. nothing fancy. Just get on with it, lot worse stuff in the world.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Would they not already have IT systems set up in their constituency offices? And if so couldn't they simply move whatever they need from there to their homes during this period?

I have no idea if that is feasible which is why I'm asking the questions.
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i was contacted last week by a third party that is arranging this for some high end security corporate companies and banks.

All sorts of associated security requirements plus a greater degree of goods in transit insurance, which I already have, a daily and single operation as the distance from offices to homes was in some cases, considerable.

Had to give a day rate due to it not being a straight forward pick up, collect and drop, so some companies are moving offices as such, so it’s feasible.
 
harpo_72 said:
If you have a table and a chair in a house you have an office. I set my first business up like that, built my own desktop from bits I scrounged ( box and monitor) .. nothing fancy. Just get on with it, lot worse stuff in the world.
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That's your opinion Chris. I disagree.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I work with our technicians a lot and I can categorically say we (as in my trust) are not getting sufficient PPE but even worse we are not getting the component parts we need to maintain vital equipment like ventilators. The orders are in but either coming back as awaiting stock, delayed awaiting shipping or shipping in anything from 3-30 days.
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That’s not good enough is it Homer
Do you trust what Mat Hancock says?
 
bobmac said:
Do you really think I haven't seen them?
Do you really think I don't know what the recommendations are.
How stupid do you think I am?

A politician says go out and exercise.
I don't care.
A scientist says stay in.
He/she I will listen to.
Who wants your vote and who knows what they're talking about.
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I believe the government are telling us what the experts are telling them.
I don’t believe anyone in the government will override the experts.
Experts clearly have said you can exercise once a day,being very aware of social distancing.
 
pokerjoke said:
That’s not good enough is it Homer
Do you trust what Mat Hancock says?
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is it the government’s fault that the trusts haven’t got enough PPE or parts and back up supplies or access to companies that can, at little notice, suddenly produce more than what’s ever been needed before, and without mentioning funding, because the trusts decide where they spend, and even with an open cheque book, would they have still had unlimited amounts of PPE and parts hoarded, just in case?
 
Re the 10k offices expenses, why not give the office furniture to charity or a struggling business once this is over?
Maybe too simplistic on my part but they won't really need it any longer ?
 
harpo_72 said:
That’s fine Brian. I just think we need to be a little more circumspect with what we dish the cash out for as an engineer that’s always the bottom line.
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As is the end product. I, like you, have worked from home. I, like you, have done it from a dining table and chair. And I, like you, have done it from a dedicated work station. At 30 I could do it from the first option reasonably comfortably but by 50 it had to be something an awful lot more appropriate.

Lets not forget what the end result has to be, i.e. producing high quality work at a very critical time. 650 MP's, quite a number of which won't need to buy much at all. In the great scheme of spending, how much will it cost? Peanuts. Would you skimp £2,000,000 and risk poor output at this critical time.
 
pokerjoke said:
I believe the government are telling us what the experts are telling them.
I don’t believe anyone in the government will override the experts.
Experts clearly have said you can exercise once a day,being very aware of social distancing.
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And does that include going into a building likely to be used by other people, having probably the same strong desire to be there on a day which is very important to them.?
It seems to me that that desire has overridden every other consideration.
 
Hobbit said:
As is the end product. I, like you, have worked from home. I, like you, have done it from a dining table and chair. And I, like you, have done it from a dedicated work station. At 30 I could do it from the first option reasonably comfortably but by 50 it had to be something an awful lot more appropriate.

Lets not forget what the end result has to be, i.e. producing high quality work at a very critical time. 650 MP's, quite a number of which won't need to buy much at all. In the great scheme of spending, how much will it cost? Peanuts. Would you skimp £2,000,000 and risk poor output at this critical time.
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You need to help me over the line here, what are your concerns in their work?
 
Foxholer said:
Have you read ALL the recommendations/rules?

I suggest you check the 'exercise' part of them.

Given the nature of SILH's foray, I'd suggest it's within the bounds of the above! Certainly not as daft as the idiot walking out of my local Waitrose yesterday, that has 1 or 2 guards restricting access, who walked within a foot of 3 of us on his exit!! Or the idiots having a communal smoke at the window of the flats across the road!
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But if a church is Gods house !
The rules say don’t go in anybody else’s house.
 
BBC New's front page main pic; Headline... UK enters 4th week of Lockdown!
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Foxholer said:
BBC New's front page main pic; Headline... UK enters 4th week of Lockdown!
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But is it a lockdown though?

Aren’t these people simply exercising, especially if they live local, and like some, believe it’s absolutely within the guidelines that they can walk for 2hrs, run for 90mins or even cycle for possibly longer?

The ‘stay at home, protect the NHS and save lives’ doesn’t seem to be enforceable when there’s a caveat to be able to exercise, which can be, and in some cases is, being interpreted and manipulated to be able to stay out far longer than any ‘guidelines’, which by all accounts, ‘holds no weight’!

Until there are very clear lines drawn, which can be enforced, photos like this, of what can be perceived as far too many people in any one area, will carry on, as each and everyone of those people will be claiming there simply exercising, and there doesn’t seem to be a clear definition as to what that should be so it can be followed correctly, especially if it’s supposed to be a ‘law’ and not a suggestion!
 
one thing to remember is the aim was to get each infected person to only spread it to 0.8 people rather than 3. the picture showed here is not a true reflection on what is happening country wide. I have been out on the streets all over the county. I have been pleasantly surprised by how quiet its been over the whole holiday.
 
Fish said:
The ‘stay at home, protect the NHS and save lives’ doesn’t seem to be enforceable when there’s a caveat to be able to exercise, which can be, and in some cases is, being interpreted and manipulated to be able to stay out far longer than any ‘guidelines’, which by all accounts, ‘holds no weight’!

Until there are very clear lines drawn, which can be enforced, photos like this, of what can be perceived as far too many people in any one area, will carry on, as each and everyone of those people will be claiming there simply exercising, and there doesn’t seem to be a clear definition as to what that should be so it can be followed correctly, especially if it’s supposed to be a ‘law’ and not a suggestion!
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People are going to go out because they're allowed to instead of using their brain and staying in.
There's a deadly virus out there, stay in.

The sooner we have a Spain-like lock-down the better it will be for all of us
 
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hovis said:
one thing to remember is the aim was to get each infected person to only spread it to 0.8 people rather than 3. the picture showed here is not a true reflection on what is happening country wide. I have been out on the streets all over the county. I have been pleasantly surprised by how quiet its been over the whole holiday.
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You’re right, I’m all over the country also, passing through areas which would normally be a hive of activity, especially at bank holidays, and were scary quiet, which was good to see.

The problem is though, in condensed areas where people all come out and all head for the local parks and areas to exercise, then create, unintentionally, a ‘gathering’, then those people in quieter areas will start to venture out more and for longer, so it’s a double edged sword, we’re either in a lockdown with clear red lines, or not, so the country can understand and follow the ‘laws’, if that is indeed what they are!
 
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