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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Billysboots said:
I think it seems to be accepted now that this lockdown is not about wiping this virus out - a lockdown is never going to achieve that. It’s about protecting health services.



I think we simply have to accept that this has all been about buying time.


The lockdown, in my view, is only a small preliminary piece of a much bigger picture.
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Some of us knew from the start of it that was the case.
 
JamesR said:
They did state originally that it was about flattening the curve, so that hospitals could cope better.
Same number of cases just spread out a bit.
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I agree, but there still seems to be over reliance on daily figures, and people worrying that there are still hundreds of daily deaths. Like any statistics, it’s what lies behind the numbers which is important.
 
Billysboots said:
I think it seems to be accepted now that this lockdown is not about wiping this virus out - a lockdown is never going to achieve that. It’s about protecting health services.

The ludicrous thing about Spain’s figures is that, despite there still being over 200 deaths and nearly 3000 new infections in the last 24 hours, I am enormously encouraged by them. There are a lot of emergency rooms at hospitals in Spain which are now working at normal capacity.

I think we simply have to accept that this has all been about buying time. Time for drug trials to start, time for work to get underway on a vaccine, and time for the NHS to try and get in some sort of position where it can face a long term battle, which is what this will be.

The lockdown, in my view, is only a small preliminary piece of a much bigger picture.
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Good post. I'm just surprised it is infecting people at that rate still when their restrictions are so tight. I thought it would be squeezed more in Spain by now, that was clearly too simplistic a view.

I understand about spreading out the infections to a manageable level, a logical and pragmatic approach. The next big question is when and how the restrictions will start to be lifted. There will be some pressure on the people making that decision.
 
bobmac said:
Who else has their own key?
Surely if churches are closed that's it they're closed to everyone.
What happens if someone sees you and follows you in?
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I am an elder so I have a key. Only a handful in the congregation have a key. I walk past the church on our walk route. I check that it is secure and sound and today while there took the opportunity. I was in it for less than ten minutes today. Nobody can follow me in as the door locks on closing.

@Fish got it spot on.
 
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Beezerk said:
Apologies, I need to pick up on this point.
Are you suggesting the NHS should have had millions of PPE equipment locked away gathering dust, just in case there was a world wide epidemic?
Hindsight in a wonderful thing but surely it just isn't a sensible option?
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Worked for Wimbledon who paid 2m dollars a year for 17 years to insure against such pandemics as the current crisis.
They will recieve 134m dollars for this years cancellation.
I do like the dollars currency in this post.:eek:
 
HappyHacker1 said:
No one needed foresight, you only needed ears, we were told it very clearly, numerous times, some of us were listening, seems some of us weren't.
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I was listening and understood very well, not least because of an underlying condition which makes me vulnerable.

I’m going to be very forthright. In the same vein to others suggesting party politics needs to be placed to one side, I’m going to suggest you stop trolling simply because you took umbrage to my posts on another thread.

Life is too short, and too precious at the moment, for you to puff your chest out and bore the rest of the forum senseless simply because you’ve taken a dislike to what I say, and how I say it.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Good post. I'm just surprised it is infecting people at that rate still when their restrictions are so tight. I thought it would be squeezed more in Spain by now, that was clearly too simplistic a view.

I understand about spreading out the infections to a manageable level, a logical and pragmatic approach. The next big question is when and how the restrictions will start to be lifted. There will be some pressure on the people making that decision.
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The decision to lift the lockdown and how to do it will be several times harder than imposing it to begin with.

Our politicians will be earning their money in the weeks and months ahead.
 
MegaSteve said:
Do you honestly genuinely believe team tory would be sitting, in silence, unquestioning if there was a socialist Labour government in Westminster presently? Sorry, all I can see is the Tory press picking the bones out of every move with the blue rosette wearers nodding in agreement...
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That's not a party politics post then?..?
 
MegaSteve said:
Do you honestly genuinely believe team tory would be sitting, in silence, unquestioning if there was a socialist Labour government in Westminster presently? Sorry, all I can see is the Tory press picking the bones out of every move with the blue rosette wearers nodding in agreement...
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Pehaps you need to stop using the word Tory and just go with "The party who won by a landslide election and nearly have double the seats of the oposition"

or TPWWBALEANHDTSOTO for short :oops:
Hope that helps (y)

(I expect if roles were reversed we'd expect the Tories to sit down and be quiet) but it didn't happen that way.
You are probably right and we'd be reading about the RED rosette wearers nodding in agreement, but apart from being sour I have no idea how your post is constructive.
 
Billysboots said:
I was listening and understood very well, not least because of an underlying condition which makes me vulnerable.

I’m going to be very forthright. In the same vein to others suggesting party politics needs to be placed to one side, I’m going to suggest you stop trolling simply because you took umbrage to my posts on another thread.

Life is too short, and too precious at the moment, for you to puff your chest out and bore the rest of the forum senseless simply because you’ve taken a dislike to what I say, and how I say it.
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I suggest to you, you're too full of your own self importance to think I took umbrage to some other post elsewhere, stop flattering yourself.

For the record, I have no idea what you are on about.
 
Bill Gates interview.....

Which country was he referring to when he said this?

He said: 'Some countries jumped on this faster than others. They were really checking if there was community spread, they got the diagnostics capacity up quickly."

and how are those countries doing so far?
 
Billysboots said:
I was listening and understood very well, not least because of an underlying condition which makes me vulnerable.

I’m going to be very forthright. In the same vein to others suggesting party politics needs to be placed to one side, I’m going to suggest you stop trolling simply because you took umbrage to my posts on another thread.

Life is too short, and too precious at the moment, for you to puff your chest out and bore the rest of the forum senseless simply because you’ve taken a dislike to what I say, and how I say it.
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HappyHacker1 said:
I suggest to you, you're too full of your own self importance to think I took umbrage to some other post elsewhere, stop flattering yourself.

For the record, I have no idea what you are on about.
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Billy and HappyHacker
Please wind your respective necks in

Thank you ?
 
JustOne said:
Bill Gates interview.....

Which country was he referring to when he said this?

He said: 'Some countries jumped on this faster than others. They were really checking if there was community spread, they got the diagnostics capacity up quickly."

and how are those countries doing so far?
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?? ?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am an elder so I have a key. Only a handful in the congregation have a key. I walk past the church on our walk route. I check that it is secure and sound and today while there took the opportunity. I was in it for less than ten minutes today. Nobody can follow me in as the door locks on closing.

@Fish got it spot on.
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I don't care , what part of STAY IN do you not understand?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am an elder so I have a key. Only a handful in the congregation have a key. I walk past the church on our walk route. I check that it is secure and sound and today while there took the opportunity. I was in it for less than ten minutes today. Nobody can follow me in as the door locks on closing.
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bobmac said:
I don't care , what part of STAY IN do you not understand?
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I don't know why, but this sprung to mind!

God.jpg
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Billy and HappyHacker
Please wind your respective necks in

Thank you ?
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I have no idea what the fellas beef is, some previous posting from me to him, he says, so I'm not exactly sure what I have done wrong. I have challenged what he has said in this topic, it was himself who seems to be carrying things on, but I take on board what you say.
 
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