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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

JamesR said:
Indeed, some delivery personnel have been banned from accessing things by their employers.
We had a few deliveries the other day, and as it was very hot, offered them cans of coke. All said they weren’t allowed. For their own protection as well as that of the customer.
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Our council have asked residents to not hand bin bags to the bin men to just leave them as normal

People want to help out anyway they can but been asked to just leave alone so others can follow the guidelines set out for their safety
 
Captainron said:
Surely it’s down to the courier company to ensure that their staff have sufficient stock of the correct PPE to be able to make the deliveries. Also have to ensure that the drivers have been briefed on social distancing and cleaning procedures.

If the company cannot provide the proper measures then they should not be able to transport the goods. It’s not down to he sender or the receiver to provide anything.

Our company would not allow any external persons into the property under any circumstances (virus or no) to use the facilities so can fully understand them refusing you access at this time.

I do think that there should be portaloos available at sevices for the times when a sit down is required. Otherwise just find a bush and try and wet as many leaves as possible.

Good news for you is that you’re earning money making these deliveries when many people aren’t able to work at this time.

Got to look on the positive side of each situation.
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I am the company, as such I'm having to buy everything to carry out all deliveries safely and in relation to all policies.
 
Hobbit said:
Here's a thought, perhaps a little controversial in some people's eyes. Just what does the government have to apologise for in terms of PPE? Who orders the PPE? The hospitals. Who delivers the PPE? The suppliers. Who decides if there isn't enough PPE? The hospitals. Who decides if they're not producing enough PPE? The suppliers/manufacturers.

Maybe it was nuanced from Patel in the brief yesterday but my feeling was from the gist of what she was saying was what does the govt have to apologise for?

Don't shoot the messenger! I don't like Patel at all but apart from not correcting herself over the numbers, just what did she say or do wrong yesterday?
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Don’t disagree - but let no-one pretend she offered any real apology for any failings or shortcomings there may have been on testing or on PPE. And there will have been some things that in hindsight could have been done better, but hindsight is a marvellous thing. What actually matters is the gov doing the right things now and going forward.

On the trusts ensuring stockpiles? Well maybe after the 2016 pandemic test the government should have funded the trusts specifically to build their stockpiles. Maybe they did and the trusts spent the funding on frontline essential services - I don’t know.
 
JamesR said:
Indeed, some delivery personnel have been banned from accessing things by their employers.
We had a few deliveries the other day, and as it was very hot, offered them cans of coke. All said they weren’t allowed. For their own protection as well as that of the customer.
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I'd have just had you pour it into my own cup and thanked you gladly.
 
jobr1850 said:
surely that’s just a business expense though Rob, like fuel and built in to the price you charge for the service you offer?
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It is, but I was struggling to find any sensible pricing for a range of PPE that I now have to use & carry to deliver into many trusts, pharmacies, hospitals as well as normal companies who all have various policies in place, one being a visor which I've now had to order.

When doing as many deliveries as I do the amount of disposable PPE items I'm getting through, to operate safely, is substantial, and being held to ransom by some online companies who are taking advantage, is, well criminal!

Thankfully I've found and touched base this morning with a food bank organisation that has diversified to obtaining and supplying PPE to front line and key workers at small margins above cost, I hope to get my first order in about a week, that will see me through for 4-6 weeks, which I can absorb, without having to increase my charges when were all trying to pull together!
 
Fish said:
It is, but I was struggling to find any sensible pricing for a range of PPE that I now have to use & carry as may trusts, pharmacies, hospitals as well as normal companies have various policies in place, one being a visor which I've now had to order.

When doing as many deliveries as I do the amount of disposable PPE items I'm getting through, to operate safely, is substantial, and being held to ransom by some online companies who are taking advantage, is, well criminal!

Thankfully I've found and touched base this morning with a food bank organisation that has diversified to obtaining and supplying PPE to front line and key workers at small margins above cost, I hope to get my first order in about a week, that will see me through for 4-6 weeks, which I can absorb, without having to increase my charges when were all trying to pull together!
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Capitalism at its finest, you shouldn't be surprised. I wonder which MP's or party donors own said companies who are banging huge margins on items....
 
drdel said:
True, its academic anyway as Fish said earlier he was earning "...FA..." - so he's obviously just doing charitable work at the moment. ;);)
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Expect nothing less from the honourable gentleman ?
 
pauljames87 said:
Our council have asked residents to not hand bin bags to the bin men to just leave them as normal

People want to help out anyway they can but been asked to just leave alone so others can follow the guidelines set out for their safety
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I just went to my local Co-op, talk about a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I've walked in and followed the arrows etc, picking up a basket full of items I needed, got to the checkout, he's took them all out one by one with no gloves on and scanned them, as he started to pile them all up on the counter, I asked for a bag, he then placed a bag on top of the items as said he wasn't allowed to pack it?

Can someone dissect the logic in this, or am I missing something, he's already handled all the items I have, without protection, but can't handle them again to put into a bag or put them in a bag at the time of scanning, apparently for his own safety :unsure:
 
Fish said:
I just went to my local Co-op, talk about a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I've walked in and followed the arrows etc, picking up a basket full of items I needed, got to the checkout, he's took them all out one by one with no gloves on and scanned them, as he started to pile them all up on the counter, I asked for a bag, he then placed a bag on top of the items as said he wasn't allowed to pack it?

Can someone dissect the logic in this, or am I missing something, he's already handled all the items I have, without protection, but can't handle them again to put into a bag or put them in a bag at the time of scanning, apparently for his own safety :unsure:
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Fish said:
I just went to my local Co-op, talk about a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I've walked in and followed the arrows etc, picking up a basket full of items I needed, got to the checkout, he's took them all out one by one with no gloves on and scanned them, as he started to pile them all up on the counter, I asked for a bag, he then placed a bag on top of the items as said he wasn't allowed to pack it?

Can someone dissect the logic in this, or am I missing something, he's already handled all the items I have, without protection, but can't handle them again to put into a bag or put them in a bag at the time of scanning, apparently for his own safety :unsure:
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He's either been told to that by a manager or mis-interpreted what he's to do.
 
Fish said:
Oh, and for all of you living in your perfect bubble and finger pointing, Im having to now carry a water container to wash just my hands after deliveries & to freshen up, which is not acceptable!

I’m constantly complaining to companies who’s fuel stations have now closed their toilets & washrooms!

Some of us are out all day & overnight also, shame on them ?

I’ve asked at some delivery points if I can use their toilets, and I’ve been flatly refused with an array of BS excuses!

I’m having to use my hand gel sparingly now as it’s an expense I can’t keep forking out for, so I carry water & liquid soap, and I’m also reusing my masks, even though I’m delivering thousands, but I’m having to buy them to supply everyone else with their essential deliveries!

I’m having to buy all my own PPE ?
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If we make more hand sanitizer in work il send you over a nice big bottle.
 
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