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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Old Skier said:
Number of things you can volunteer for bit of a hold on things at the moment as they have to check volunteers out. I got cleared at the weekend possibly as I'm CRB checked but not a necessity.

https://www.goodsamapp.org/NHS
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Showing your age there, squire.

(It's a good few years since anyone was CRB checked - and this lockdown lark is bringing out the pedant in us all :) )
 
Old Skier said:
Accused by who, I've watched them all and they are continued to be asked the same questions that have been answered. Just because they don't like the answer doesn't mean it wasn't dealt with.
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That was the widespread accusation particularly after the last Alok Sharma briefing - and so the format was changed for when Hancock returned and follow up questions were allowed.
 
Old Skier said:
Been answered god knows how many times on the BBC, perhaps she should watch her own employers channel.
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So is it Raab or not? He seems determined to not just say ‘Yes - I make the final call’.

That is surely and simply why he was asked multiple times. Surely it matters that we know. Just say Yes - because though I may not have any time at all for his politics I will support him at the moment as the person who has the difficult final say on covid matters.
 
I was in a social distancing queue outside Tesco’s yesterday, lines on the pavement to ensure 2m apart.
There was a bloke 3 down in the queue vaping and I could smell it, then the thought hit home that what I was breathing had been in his lungs.

You could tell that lots of other people in the queue were thinking the same thing.

Is 2m enough, especially downwind? ?
 
PhilTheFragger said:
I was in a social distancing queue outside Tesco’s yesterday, lines on the pavement to ensure 2m apart.
There was a bloke 3 down in the queue vaping and I could smell it, then the thought hit home that what I was breathing had been in his lungs.

You could tell that lots of other people in the queue were thinking the same thing.

Is 2m enough, especially downwind? ?
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Vaping is horrible at the best of time. I hate having to walk through a cloud of someone else’s cherry flavoured lung vapour. Did anyone say anything? Or just suffer in silence in the true British way ?
 
Leftitshort said:
Vaping is horrible at the best of time. I hate having to walk through a cloud of someone else’s cherry flavoured lung vapour. Did anyone say anything? Or just suffer in silence in the true British way ?
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jobr1850 said:
100% its not.

You should have challenged him, his actions are totally wrong.
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it’s not so much the vaping itself (which I don’t like) , but it illustrated how far breath can travel, I was about 6 or 7 meters from the bloke.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So is it Raab or not? He seems determined to not just say ‘Yes - I make the final call’.

That is surely and simply why he was asked multiple times. Surely it matters that we know. Just say Yes - because though I may not have any time at all for his politics I will support him at the moment as the person who has the difficult final say on covid matters.
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Do you actually listen to what's said or just hear what you want to hear. Its been answered many times in our unwritten constitution he is not categorically in charge regardless of where he is that remains Boris. However if Boris becomes unable to literally do anything it will be a cabinet decision not a Raab decision that gets made and he will merely be the spokes person on behalf of the cabinet decision.

It was answered several times clearly but clearly its not what you wanted to hear.
 
PhilTheFragger said:
it’s not so much the vaping itself (which I don’t like) , but it illustrated how far breath can travel, I was about 6 or 7 meters from the bloke.
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Biggest worry for me in the vaping would be as its moisture based that is more you could take into the lungs than merely any breath in the air.

Should simply be banned in all public places and gatherings including queues.
 
Wolf said:
Chatham roads quiet as even

Do you actually listen to what's said or just hear what you want to hear. Its been answered many times in our unwritten constitution he is not categorically in charge regardless of where he is that remains Boris. However if Boris becomes unable to literally do anything it will be a cabinet decision not a Raab decision that gets made and he will merely be the spokes person in behalf of the cabinet decision.

It was answered several times clearly but clearly its not what you wanted to hear.
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You know he only hears what he wants too!

Maybe he’ll believe it if his barber tells him ??
 
PhilTheFragger said:
it’s not so much the vaping itself (which I don’t like) , but it illustrated how far breath can travel, I was about 6 or 7 meters from the bloke.
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I read about tests that had been undertaken on the 'aerosol' transmission and half lifes of the virus. Its conclusion was yes it does float and travel in addition to surface & droplets from coughing etc, but cant find the link now.

Me personally I don't live by the 2m rule, especially in confined spaces or if downwind or outside etc. I've got the daily post in quarantine, why bother taking the risk I suppose is my view.:eek:

But a couple of articles about it :-

https://www.livescience.com/covid19-coronavirus-transmission-through-speech.html
https://www.livescience.com/how-covid-19-spreads-transmission-routes.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00974-w
 
PhilTheFragger said:
I was in a social distancing queue outside Tesco’s yesterday, lines on the pavement to ensure 2m apart.
There was a bloke 3 down in the queue vaping and I could smell it, then the thought hit home that what I was breathing had been in his lungs.

You could tell that lots of other people in the queue were thinking the same thing.

Is 2m enough, especially downwind? ?
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I could be wrong here as I'm no doctor but I thought that they said it's not airborne - i.e. you can't just breathe in the virus and catch it that way. You catch it by touching something an infected person has touched, or if they cough or sneeze and an actual droplet lands on you. So both those reasons are why the 2m distance was put in place.

Still, I hate the smell of those bloody vape things anyway! The only good thing about them is that they've helped my wife quit smoking. Some of the cinnamon, bubblegum etc smells that come out of them are revolting though.
 
MIT have done tests to show a cough can produce air projection of 6m and a sneeze can produce air projection of 8.
2 m is insufficient but probably all thats practicalfor modern structures and places.
And yes, a cough or sneeze can transmit it.
 
Orikoru said:
I could be wrong here as I'm no doctor but I thought that they said it's not airborne - i.e. you can't just breathe in the virus and catch it that way. You catch it by touching something an infected person has touched, or if they cough or sneeze and an actual droplet lands on you. So both those reasons are why the 2m distance was put in place.

Still, I hate the smell of those bloody vape things anyway! The only good thing about them is that they've helped my wife quit smoking. Some of the cinnamon, bubblegum etc smells that come out of them are revolting though.
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This is a point that really needs clarification. It seems beyond doubt that droplets from a cough or sneeze transmit the virus.
Does breathing the same air as has been expelled by others transmit the virus.
IOW, does ordinary expelled air carry a droplet? Or not?

Opinions from us aren't going to determine me to think breath is safe.
Does anyone know where the medical experts have pronounced on this?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
This is a point that really needs clarification. It seems beyond doubt that droplets from a cough or sneeze transmit the virus.
Does breathing the same air as has been expelled by others transmit the virus.
IOW, does ordinary expelled air carry a droplet? Or not?

Opinions from us aren't going to determine me to think breath is safe.
Does anyone know where the medical experts have pronounced on this?
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Well this is what I was saying - I think them imposing the 2m distance implies that you can't or are very unlikely to catch it simply by breathing air that has been in infected lungs. I suppose there are microscopic droplets in breath, but the droplets from a sneeze or cough are more sizeable.
 
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