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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Crazyface said:
Maybe I'm thick. Can you explain? It was something I read last night. Explain in simple terms for me, coz I'm THICK, why CV19 is worse than flu? Coz I really just don't get it.
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Theres no maybe about it.

I couldn't make it more simplified than what the worlds best scientists and Dr's have been doing/saying for the past month or so but I'll try.

Covid 19 is believed to have been passed from animals to humans. It's more dangerous and infectious than common flu.

So in summary, because Covid 19 is spreading 3x times faster than common flu,its infecting 3x as many people with stronger symptoms and there's no vaccine to cure or control it, not enough ICU beds for the most extreme infected, no testing kits etc the only other way to control it is to stop the spread. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

How do we stop the spread??

Yep you guessed it, STOP MOVING ABOUT.

DO YOU NOW GET THE LOCKDOWN?

Theres plenty of information on it written by real experts if you ca be bothered to educate yourself, I'm not here to educate you, but going by your previous posts I think it would be impossible for me and most others to do so.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Police chief of Liverpool said on Granada reports that “Its ok to drive a short distance to go for exercise to a quiet spot”
That is really mixed messages.
After Paul’s relative was refused permission to drive to Liverpool, so what is nessesary and what’s not.?
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I think you've missed off the bit of the interview he gave were he said " we do not want to alienate the public, we want to work with them" in response to Lancs Constabulary's overhanded approach issuing fines...... I think its sensible advice. He's not saying everyone jump in your cars and drive to go for a walk.

Its common sense really.
 
Foxholer said:
The rather significant difference between Flu and C19 is that there's protection available for Flu, whil;e there's none (yet) for C19! And that's aside from the often more serious effects C19 can have!

I don't, yet, get vaccinated against Flu, though if my health deterioates I'll (re)consider it. But if a vaccine against C19 becomes available, I'll certainly be in the queue for it!
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I posted a couple of links a day or two back regarding reports that the BCG immunisation helps in reducing the effects of the Covid symptoms, unless you've had a flu jab, which then negates the BCG.
 
rudebhoy said:
Business Secretary getting slaughtered by the press after an abysmal performance at yesterday's briefing. The Telegraph is particularly scathing which must be worrying for BJ.

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Wonder who they will field today? Rees Mogg? Patel?
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Christ, is the Torygraph going rogue?? The impact of isolation on journalists much be worse than I expected. I expect it will be a cold cold day in hell before Rees-Mogg is paraded as the person the nation needs to listen to in times of crisis. I expect they will just defer more to the experts in conferences, as it seems to be a pattern across the globe that if politicians speak then people are mostly a bit scpetical for many reasons and sometimes they do more harm than good (exhibit 1 your honour, Donald Trump). Where as I think people tend to listen to and trust experts as the clue is in the their titles.
 
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rudebhoy said:
Business Secretary getting slaughtered by the press after an abysmal performance at yesterday's briefing. The Telegraph is particularly scathing which must be worrying for BJ.

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Wonder who they will field today? Rees Mogg? Patel?
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Well I never. Let it not be said that I was impressed by him. And likewise the Daily Mail is being highly critical of PHE. But give it time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...house-key-fixing-Britains-testing-fiasco.html

Compare and contrast the Business Secs performance (not that different to that in recent days of Gove or Jenrick) with that of NY Governor Andrew Cuomo in his briefing of 31st March. The only difference is that Cuomo is speaking unscripted. The BS and his colleagues are reading from a script. Do they not feel on top of the briefing message - or is it that they must stick to the line and avoid any chance of misspeaking. I dunno. But it is that that really worries me - that the message to us has to be so strictly controlled. I know which politician I would have most belief in. Cuomo is a leader. Just listen - first ten minutes is enough to get a feel but I found myself compelled to watch and listen on as he very clearly explained what is happening and what has to happen - IMO he is quite brilliant.

 
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Day 14 of lockin, Last time I was out of the flat was 12 days ago for food & was masked and gloved up with 2m pointy stick. I feel pretty sure I don't have Bat-Lurgy but another couple of days to be sure I guess.
Going a bit stir crazy and missing the golf but no arguments with my wife (so we must must get along ok) 14 more days confinement to go (if its not extended again). Will wait another week or so before venturing out for food

Did wake up a few days ago to see a bat had decided to lay up for the day on our balcony, a wee bit ominous but saw him off the premises & he's not been back

edit: just took rubbish out... Thursday exercise; check
 
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Slab said:
Day 14 of lockin, Last time I was out of the flat was 12 days ago for food & was masked and gloved up with 2m pointy stick. I feel pretty sure I don't have Bat-Lurgy but another couple of days to be sure I guess.
Going a bit stir crazy and missing the golf but no arguments with my wife (so we must must get along ok) 14 more days confinement to go (if its not extended again). Will wait another week or so before venturing out for food

Did wake up a few days ago to see a bat had decided to lay up for the day on our balcony, a wee bit ominous but saw him off the premises & he's not been back

edit: just took rubbish out... Thursday exercise; check
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14 days.. pah, a mere walk in the (virtual) park. 19 here. Hopefully only 11 days to go.

Today's figures make grim reading. Over 110k infected. Over 10,000 dead.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Christ, is the Torygraph going rough?? The impact of isolation on journalists much be worst than I expected. I expect it will be a cold cold day in hell before Rees-Mogg is paraded as the person the nation needs to listen to in times of crisis. I expect they will just defer more to the experts in conferences, as it seems to be a pattern across the globe that if politicians speak then people are mostly a bit scpetical for many reasons and sometimes they do more harm than good (exhibit 1 your honour, Donald Trump). Where as I think people tend to listen to and trust experts as the clue is in the their titles.
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I try really hard to keep up, but when did Trump transform into a politician?
 
my dad is getting out of hospital in a few days so I volunteered to go to his boat for a few days to higher his bed and fix his shower room. definitely taking my fishing rods to hang out the side. it'll almost be like the virus's didn't hit. we'll, almost
 
Wife just got a letter from Scottish Executive, tell her to self isolate for 12 weeks due to her being high risk.
Even in the house she is to keep isolated from the rest of us as best possible, not to sleep with anybody not even me?
My son and daughter have not been out for 10 days apart from a walk, myself I've been doing the shopping and chemist runs.
Now decided to food shop online and get my sister to drop of bread and milk every 5 days or so.
As long as none of us have been outside for the next couple of weeks we can relax the social isolation a bit within the house.
However even if they relaxed the restrictions in a month or so any golf for me will be with the dawn chorus until we're back to normality.

Listen guys things are miserable enough without coming on here and bickering about graphs and how many are going to die, one member just lost his brother so give it a rest.

Tough times ahead and it will hit some families more than others, so everyone needs to do their bit to get through this as best we can.
Slab said:
Day 14 of lockin, Last time I was out of the flat was 12 days ago for food & was masked and gloved up with 2m pointy stick. I feel pretty sure I don't have Bat-Lurgy but another couple of days to be sure I guess.
Going a bit stir crazy and missing the golf but no arguments with my wife (so we must must get along ok) 14 more days confinement to go (if its not extended again). Will wait another week or so before venturing out for food

Did wake up a few days ago to see a bat had decided to lay up for the day on our balcony, a wee bit ominous but saw him off the premises & he's not been back

edit: just took rubbish out... Thursday exercise; check
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no arguments with the wife, you must be ex military like me used to following orders??
 
Temporary mortuaries, around the corner, have now been completed and receiving a steady stream of traffic... A friend who lives just across the road, to the entrance, tells me his wife is finding it a most distressing sight...
 
Foxholer said:
The rather significant difference between Flu and C19 is that there's protection available for Flu, whil;e there's none (yet) for C19! And that's aside from the often more serious effects C19 can have!

I don't, yet, get vaccinated against Flu, though if my health deterioates I'll (re)consider it. But if a vaccine against C19 becomes available, I'll certainly be in the queue for it!
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Amazing how many folk do not understand that simple fact.
I had to explain it to a relative the other day who suddenly realised how serious this was after virtually breaking all of the advice rules
 
No vaccine - no immunity - the virus would spread like an uncontrolled wildfire...and these can cost many lives...

What the public are we being asked to do at the moment with separation is akin to us creating as many firebreaks in the forest as possible - trying to stop the fire spreading and containing it to where our firefighters can try and put it out, whilst not getting burnt ourselves.
 
Clearly not enough testing gone on.....I've no idea why or what the issues are, I hope it isn't to do with the conventional constraints Public Sector Procurement operates under. But I guess when this is all over, we'll see who did their bit, who didn't and who just stood on the sidelines chucking rocks!
 
Stuart_C said:
I think you've missed off the bit of the interview he gave were he said " we do not want to alienate the public, we want to work with them" in response to Lancs Constabulary's overhanded approach issuing fines...... I think its sensible advice. He's not saying everyone jump in your cars and drive to go for a walk.

Its common sense really.
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Yes but that only applies to people with some common sense.
There have been plenty of incidents to prove lots of people haven't got any..
It was the mixed messages from different forces that was my main concern.!
 
clubchamp98 said:
Yes but that only applies to people with some common sense.
There have been plenty of incidents to prove lots of people haven't got any..
It was the mixed messages from different forces that was my main concern.!
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The mixed messages coming from the top doesn’t help.

Anyway seeing as I’ve got common sense, I’m off to Sefton Park to do my exercise. Toodle pip??
 
Went for a walk at lunch time. The Police have now taped off the car park at my local woods. It didn't stop a couple of muppets from parking in front of the tape though. I guess they think it does not apply to them.
 
murphthemog said:
Went for a walk at lunch time. The Police have now taped off the car park at my local woods. It didn't stop a couple of muppets from parking in front of the tape though. I guess they think it does not apply to them.
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Well it dosnt as the police have now said you can! In Liverpool anyway.
That’s the problem imo, if you give people a choice some will take it as a green light to do it.
But when the numbers get high again they will ban it.
Dosnt make sense mixed messages.
 
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