Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Wolf said:
Totally understand your points as golf is something positive to look forward to but in this climate of essential travel and exercise golf isn't required. Again understand you use it as time to escape your phone but physical and mental health benefits come from the exercise part of which the walking is more beneficial. If you aren't able to put your phone down except when playing golf then that says you need to do more for yourself to place distance between your reliance on the device. This is indicative of modern society in that when the phone was attached to a wire we were free, as soon as the phone became mobile we are tied to it...

I get all your points but from a mental health point of view golf is not the essential part, the essential part is the exercise and distancing ourselves from devices that hold us hostage.
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I don't agree with that. Golf focuses my mind on the shot/hole that I'm playing. Walking without purpose just bores me, and my mind will still be obsessing over other things. So it's not just about the walking.

I know that I check my phone too much, I have actually started setting it to battery saving mode because then it doesn't buzz when I get a message or email so I don't look at it as much. But that's just boredom and an idle mind. The only things that keep my away from my phone are playing sport because they occupy the body and the mind. Walking to me is not a sport and does nothing to occupy my mind.
 
pauldj42 said:
Sorry mate, I’ve done casework for the RBL for over 10yrs and have seen a few occasions when specific sport equipment has been bought for able bodied, fit people, to help with their mental health problems, sometimes it can be that narrowly focussed on their individual issues.
Very rare I accept, but still out there.
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So have i worked with mental health referrals from GP for years, yes sport helps but in this current climate sport is not essential whereas exercise can still be maintained. Golf is not essential and dressing it up as such takes away from the greater issue if helping control this situation.
 
Orikoru said:
I don't agree with that. Golf focuses my mind on the shot/hole that I'm playing. Walking without purpose just bores me, and my mind will still be obsessing over other things. So it's not just about the walking.

I know that I check my phone too much, I have actually started setting it to battery saving mode because then it doesn't buzz when I get a message or email so I don't look at it as much. But that's just boredom and an idle mind. The only things that keep my away from my phone are playing sport because they occupy the body and the mind. Walking to me is not a sport and does nothing to occupy my mind.
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Didnt say was just about the walking I said the walking is mire beneficial from the health aspect which it is. I agree the focus you get helps distract you but there more important things than golf.
 
Orikoru said:
I don't agree with that. Golf focuses my mind on the shot/hole that I'm playing. Walking without purpose just bores me, and my mind will still be obsessing over other things. So it's not just about the walking.

I know that I check my phone too much, I have actually started setting it to battery saving mode because then it doesn't buzz when I get a message or email so I don't look at it as much. But that's just boredom and an idle mind. The only things that keep my away from my phone are playing sport because they occupy the body and the mind. Walking to me is not a sport and does nothing to occupy my mind.
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Dare I say it but it sounds like you're saying you're not in control of your mind ;)
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52003076
above is a story about how tubes/trains are crammed and how irresponsible people are.

Yet it is the same companies who have cut services and forced people onto fewer trains....what did they expect to happen?

If peoples employers have asked them still to go to work else they wont get paid...what else do they expect to happen?

Or is this what they wanted to happen so even more drastic steps "have" to be taken?
 
Wolf said:
So have i worked with mental health referrals from GP for years, yes sport helps but in this current climate sport is not essential whereas exercise can still be maintained. Golf is not essential and dressing it up as such takes away from the greater issue if helping control this situation.
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I’m just talking in general terms, not disputing anything about the current situation, all measures should be brought in tbh.
 
We start curfew in a few hours. Anyone found outside the home without permission for the next 10 days... will be arrested
Cases 24
Deaths 2
 
Hobbit said:
Just thought I'd share my Control of Infection 'protocols' for my shopping trip on Thursday.

Thankfully it wasn't too warm a day.
1) Long sleeved shirt & long trousers.
2) Gloves and mask.
3) Parked with at least 3 spare spaces around, and in an area of the car park that wouldn't fill up.
4) Maintained social distancing in the queue to go into the shop, and with only 10 people at any one time, didn't pass anyone in any aisle.
5) When I'd left home I'd purposely left the gate open, no touching the gate. And I'd left instructions for HID to open the front door as I pulled up.
6) Unloaded direct into the kitchen cupboards.
7) Stripped off direct into the washer - washer door already open, which HID closed after I'd left the kitchen. She was in the dining area until I was in the shower.
8) Straight into the shower.
9) No going out for either of us for the next 10 days, till the next shopping trip, which will give time for any symptoms to manifest themselves.

OTT? Paranoid? I was surrounded by other paranoid people. Quite what they did when they got home...

And in the last 2 days the rate of growth in C19 numbers in the Almeria region has dropped. The curve might just be flattening.
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I think this, and other insights you have shared from spain should be shared more in the uk. Are you okay for us copying the relevant parts from this?
 
pauldj42 said:
No risk of tripping over on a run and needing the emergency services then? I can walk to my Golf Course it’s that close.
Fitness/age means some peoples only exercise is Golf, what’s the difference in walking in isolation and playing in isolation?
Food, obviously we need to shop, but timing is everything.

As for pets? Best I don’t go there.:unsure:
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Mate of mine went out for a cycle on Saturday - by himself. I met him walking home. He'd crashed and broken his wrist. Had not spotted a big root on the track he was on - and down he went - simple as that. Call to NHS111 coming up for advice and a likely call to a friend to take him to A&E.

[EDIT] I'll add - he felt very guilty that he was going to put a load on the NHS due to him doing an activity that was totally unnecessary
 
Some very raw, anecdotal evidence of how contagious the virus is.

Think of how a hospital is staffed, e.g. how many work in the critical care areas, and how many work in the safer areas.

12% of medical staff in Spain now have COVID-19. That will mean far more than 12% of critical care staff will catch it, and that's with using masks and scrubs... 3,489 at the last count...
 
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adam6177 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52003076
above is a story about how tubes/trains are crammed and how irresponsible people are.

Yet it is the same companies who have cut services and forced people onto fewer trains....what did they expect to happen?

If peoples employers have asked them still to go to work else they wont get paid...what else do they expect to happen?

Or is this what they wanted to happen so even more drastic steps "have" to be taken?
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I think some of these people live on a different planet. You can't just cut services and advise people not to bother turning up for work ffs.

"London Underground staff are "furious" that parts of the network remain crowded, despite the public being told to limit travel to essential journeys. "

Who are they furious with? The government? With their own bosses for cutting the number of services? I'm delighted that I'm able to work from home through all this but obviously not everybody has that luxury.
 
Robster59 said:
I will have to go and collect these but will have to be extremely careful as to who I come into contact with and that will be it for me travelling from the house
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Suggest see @Hobbit's regime for when he goes out for food shopping. May seem very extreme on reading, but especially where you have a great concern for others in your household the strength of any security system is it's weakest link applies. Take care.
 
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pauldj42 said:
Good post and I sympathise, I’m in a similar situation, we look after the mother-in-law who has cancer and is terminally ill, son was born premature and has chronic lung disease and wife suffered a stroke a few years back due to her health issues and is on immunosuppressants.

We have virtually self isolated for weeks now apart from medical appts and me visiting a few shops when home delivery have not delivered a few things.

Running/Golf is my release, wife surprisingly prefers I do the Golf as she worries about me getting injured, pulled muscles, etc.

Played a few times last week, always on my own and always in the last few daylight hours. Went once last week and 2 guys on the 1st, turned round came home.
Good luck with your situation, I do feel all Golf Clubs will be shut by next weekend and I’ll be content with training in my yard.
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My thoughts are with you and all in similar situation. I hope I realise my fortune when I start ticking on to myself about how hard it is for me.
It bears no comparison.
Good luck to you all
 
Its rather unnerving to see the antisocial behaviour of some people. But those who chastise the PM for not yet imposing a lock down need to remember that there is considerable preparation and coordination required in addition to the legal framework. Services personnel, Police, Fire Services and others need to be prepared especially if idiots decide to form protest groups.

The ill-informed 'freedom' fighter/protesters who do not respect the law meaning the country walks a tight line on the edge of anarchy.
 
Not sure that Hancock's message this morning on the Today programme about 'getting out and about' was that helpful - that the government recognises the need for us all to be able to get out and about to keep fit. No sir we don't.

And even if we did, then we in the UK have fitness needs no different from those of all these countries where citizens are in lockdown and cannot leave their homes. But he still was giving this line about us being able to go outside - for fitness reasons. No! Hancocks's message was not helpful at all.
 
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Wolf said:
No its not subjective. Exercise can help mental health but there is no specific that says it has to be golf. So that isn't an argument for golf remaining essential.

As I said in my previous post if you can walk to the course no problem, however people will still drive there and that's unnecessary.
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I get what your saying but a lot of people can’t do any other form of exercise really.
I can’t run because of a ACL injury years ago.
Age restricts what you can do.
My gym is shut and the only thing is going for a walk , if I do that I might as well carry my clubs.
I will struggle if I can’t leave the house.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Not sure that Hancock's message this morning on the Today programme about 'getting out and about' was that helpful - that the government recognises the need for us all to be able to get out and about to keep fit. No sir we don't.

And even if we did, the we in the UK have fitness needs no different from those of all these countries where citizens are in lockdown and cannot leave there house. But he still was giving this line about us being able to go outside - for fitness reasons. No! Hancocks's message was not helpful at all.
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It gives people the excuse they are looking for, maybe even subconsciously. You wouldn't a picture of our lounge every afternoon. HID puts one of her Zumba DVD's on and we rock!
 
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