Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
That's the entire point of the video

We are coping with what we got ATM and can cope with these tiny increases

What we can't cope with is massive spikes then drops spikes then drops.
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Why the exponential acceleration has to be dampened down to an acceleration in numbers of almost zero - the NHS would most likely be able to cope with a steady growth over a period then levelling off before dropping - but cannot cope with the acceleration. That acceleration of very ill needs spotted and then measures applied immediately without ANY delay - not even a day. That is the experience of China - they saw the acceleration but did nothing about it for a good few days - if they had clamped down immediately acceleration was spotted they could have cut numbers by 60+ % according to reporting I saw.
 
triple_bogey said:
And this is the type of backwards thinking that is striking fear into mindless thugs and an increase in attacks of people of Oriental origins. So you telling me that there are no other races that resides in the area's of Wuhan?
Its common practice to wear masks in Asian countries mainly due to pollution. And they are worn when one has a cold or similar and do not wish to pass it on. They can not afford to miss days off work. They simply do not have that luxury like we do in the UK.

Read into what you will, but it seems too easy for the media to blame the ''wet markets'' when coincidentally there happens to be a research Biolab facility in the vicinity of the market. :unsure:
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And conspiracy theories don’t help either...
 
triple_bogey said:
Maybe another pure coincidence, China spokesperson accuses US Military of bringing over Covid-19. The US experiencing high numbers of patients treated for influenza (not tested for Covid-19).
China stages Military World Games around the end of October 2019 in WUHAN. Apparently the US squad performed poorly by US standards. First patient/outbreak happened shortly after in November.

Agree, vague guesses but who knows.........Both China and the US are nutjobs. Wouldn't put anything past these two countries.
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Stop please...you’ll be telling us next that the pictures from Madrid are faked and that Hobbit works for GCHQ and is posting fake news about his local lockdown.
 
You never know, one good thing that may come out of this is that as a society we value and pay more the carers, nurses, teachers, supermarket shelf stackers and pay slightly less those that essentially move imaginary money around all day who are actively wanting company shares to fall in some cases.
 
Nobody wants to be on the wrong side of history in these situations

I have been massively critical of the Tories in other situations but I must say they have handled this well so far.

Minimise the affects where you can

Don't lock down too soon.

Keep schools open so that childcare doesn't become an issue for key workers such as the NHS

Isolation of the over 70s the next step as they are most at risk so to protect them

Keeping to facts rather than scaring people

Not their fault though that the public have gone mental with shopping
 
Hacker Khan said:
You never know, one good thing that may come out of this is that as a society we value and pay more the carers, nurses, teachers, supermarket shelf stackers and pay slightly less those that essentially move imaginary money around all day who are actively wanting company shares to fall in some cases.
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And we might realise that zero hours contracts with no employee protections are not an acceptable way to employ individuals. What we need is organised representation for employees - hold on a second...

I remain fully supportive of the government on this - and just hoping that their communication and clarity improves a bit from today. And the sort of scaremongering that nick Ferrari was doing earlier on LBC has to be instantly rebutted by live radio / call-ins being required to accept calls in by government representatives to correct misconceptions and misrepresentations.
 
Hacker Khan said:
You never know, one good thing that may come out of this is that as a society we value and pay more the carers, nurses, teachers, supermarket shelf stackers and pay slightly less those that essentially move imaginary money around all day who are actively wanting company shares to fall in some cases.
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I wouldn't hold your breath Hacker
 
Well -
Doon frae Troon said:
But...….. if they self isolate the over 70's what will happen to the House of Lords.
The country will come to a complete standstill.:unsure:
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Risk that important legislation would go through without proper scrutiny and revision...but plenty of under 70s and maybe over 70s can just watch on BBC Parliament and vote remotely.
 
When we see how much voluntary self isolation and working from home there already is (plus other behavioural change like constant hand washing etc), I wonder how much extra benefit there is from imposing more drastic rules. Does the 80/20 for apply to the control of infectious diseases?
 
pendodave said:
When we see how much voluntary self isolation and working from home there already is (plus other behavioural change like constant hand washing etc), I wonder how much extra benefit there is from imposing more drastic rules. Does the 80/20 for apply to the control of infectious diseases?
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Well - the reasonable worst case working assumption for the immediate pandemic is that 80% will contract it. But that's the reasonable worst case planning assumption and not a prediction based upon the current situation. However in the next year or so and without a vaccine I expect 80% to be close to what happens. Without a vaccine none of us has any resistance.
 
Upside (I guess) for my wife of commuter train into Waterloo and Underground being very quiet is that she can separate from other passengers, indeed she may start walking from Waterloo to Tower Bridge.

As she works on a Breast Cancer charity Helpline in the city near Tower Bridge station she can't do that from home (if they shut the office they'd probably redirect calls to one of the Helpline most senior nurses). The charity will be deluged with calls for support and advice if BC patients can't get through to their own nursing team, and so they'll want to keep their Helpline open as much as possible.
 
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