Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
How can you not use free market capitalism, or a version of it, when you are competing in a global market? And that's part of the trouble. Come at it from the other direction. Salaries go up, great, but costs make the product uncompetitive.

How do you get around it? Subsidise? Isn't that what tax credits are, a type of subsidy? But that needs a govt that subscribes to the idea of doing back door subsidies.... don't forget, under EU law its been illegal to give business subsidies without EU approval, even though products made in, say, Greece might have lower costs
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I know mate.. The comments were more tongue in cheek (but I forgot the smilies).. A change in social and economic direction would have to be global, and that just won't happen.. We're in a race to the bottom, and mother nature has just put nitrous oxide into the engine! ;-)
 
Paranoia setting in, was out in the garden as we have a finer day for once, just patrolling the grounds, neighbours are also outside , they aren't long back from Italy, bloke coughing away has driven me back in. In both Tesco and Lidl earlier, few seem to give a monkeys about keeping 2m apart, started to annoy me a bit, have they not seen the news? Major handwashing on return. Just finished re-wiring a lamp, also put new tuning pegs onto a classical guitar, what now?
 
I'm the IT Manager in a large secondary school, as you can imagine this week has been quite busy!!!

Also had a 50th trip to Portugal cancelled by YourGolfTravel and they won't refund...
 
Kennysarmy said:
I'm the IT Manager in a large secondary school, as you can imagine this week has been quite busy!!!

Also had a 50th trip to Portugal cancelled by YourGolfTravel and they won't refund...
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I'm assuming they are saying you can have the credit to use later on? I've got a UK based trip booked with them for next month and I expect the same. I think they are in a bad position as they will be cancelling holidays hand over fist, so if they refund everyone they will be in real danger. But then again how fair is it that you can;t get your money back if you want it as they have not delivered the holiday you asked for.
 
Wolf said:
I think this whole pay debate is best left for a separate discussion board as there are so many rabbit holes we can go down with it. Like why does a nurse, copper or fireman deserve a higher starting wage than a soldier, airman or Sailor whose training is in many instances more intense and their jobs are often more life threatening and mean many months away from families etc.

We shouldn't pay anyone crazy money whether its a nurse, postal work or shelf stacker. Ultimately anyone working anywhere has a right to go to work be respected for what they do which adds to society in some way whether through taxes paid, putting food in shelves so we all get to eat or looking after our health care or nation's security, in addition to that respect they all regardless of role deserve a salary that allows them to live without having to seek further government assistance just to eat and keep a roof over their heads..

As part of this outbreak I don't merely want people to acknowledge how hard NHS workers work or supermarkets workers are undervalued. I want people acknowledge how important it is to be kind and helpful to other men and women as a whole and society to acknowledge we are all in this together and support each other as a whole instead of point scoring of who deserves what.
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Because you can shoot your awkward customers whereas we had to be kind to ours? ;) (For any members of the Tank Regiments on here that is a joke... :whistle: )

Being serious, there are so many ins & outs to this; where do forces personnel stand re accommodation & food (I genuinely don't know the answer) so does that to some degree compensate for lower wages? what I can agree on is that there are some occupations that are seriously undervalued and some that are seriously overpaid & who hold too much power. But I'm equally sure that will all be quickly forgotten once we are through this.
 
Great vid just popped up on FB of 2 soldiers in Malaga carrying the shopping for a very, very old lady. There are some great examples of the community pulling together. Earlier it was a guy or girl dressed in a huge unicorn suit galloping to the communal bins and back home.

Lockdown, 5.5 days in.

We got notification on Friday of immediate closures, and by Saturday lunchtime pretty much everything was closed. Full on from Monday. Daily public service broadcasts from the local police going around the village. Its a gilded cage, and its no fun.
 
Just tried to get in at a local course but told no chance as the seniors have a paddy day shotgun on???????????? How? I asked. Aren't they supposed to be self isolating????? Looks like the seniors are sticking the finger up. What a surprise!!!
 
Copied from Twitter:

Take a moment out of the current #COVID19 ‘infodemic’ and spare a thought for the family of Lance Corporal Brodie Gillon. Killed in a foreign land, she will be repatriated back on to Great British soil today where she belongs. Thoughts with all involved and her family.
 
pauldj42 said:
Copied from Twitter:

Take a moment out of the current #COVID19 ‘infodemic’ and spare a thought for the family of Lance Corporal Brodie Gillon. Killed in a foreign land, she will be repatriated back on to Great British soil today where she belongs. Thoughts with all involved and her family.
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Saw that the other day, she was killed in one of the Iraq rocket attacks whilst she was working in a medic role. A very sad thing to happen and thoughts with her family today.
 
Spent the whole day helping stocking up another 20 beds and getting signage etc sorted. So little stock of anything including linen and now scrubs for daily use by doctors and physios and have no idea what'll happen if/when this gets to a stage when the normal ICU we have now (19 beds) is full and we've used the adjacent siderooms (taken over from another ward as they external doors and a small internal corridor which is preferable for infection control) and are into the additional 20 beds planned. So little equipment in terms of vents etc. All been a bit of sobering day. Everyone on a state of heightened alert (almost a panic in terms of "are we going to be ready") and so many people running around. Problem I am seeing is people are doing their own bit but there seems to be no overall communication for the ICU team from the ICU consultants, lead nurse, matron etc and so no-one has a complete pictire
 
Hacker Khan said:
I'm assuming they are saying you can have the credit to use later on? I've got a UK based trip booked with them for next month and I expect the same. I think they are in a bad position as they will be cancelling holidays hand over fist, so if they refund everyone they will be in real danger. But then again how fair is it that you can;t get your money back if you want it as they have not delivered the holiday you asked for.
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Package Holiday Operators are evading their responsibilities to refund customers under the package travel regulations. A contract is a contract and they need to refund. Consumers should not be bailing them out. Name and Shame those not refunding.
 
maxfli65 said:
Paranoia setting in, was out in the garden as we have a finer day for once, just patrolling the grounds, neighbours are also outside , they aren't long back from Italy, bloke coughing away has driven me back in. In both Tesco and Lidl earlier, few seem to give a monkeys about keeping 2m apart, started to annoy me a bit, have they not seen the news? Major handwashing on return. Just finished re-wiring a lamp, also put new tuning pegs onto a classical guitar, what now?
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Get yourself a 4000 piece jigsaw. I'm a bit of a magpie for jisaws from charity shops and have got a great stack of them that have been sitting there just waiting for the day...
 
Hacker Khan said:
I'm assuming they are saying you can have the credit to use later on? I've got a UK based trip booked with them for next month and I expect the same. I think they are in a bad position as they will be cancelling holidays hand over fist, so if they refund everyone they will be in real danger. But then again how fair is it that you can;t get your money back if you want it as they have not delivered the holiday you asked for.
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We are also in such a situation, with 12 of us booked and paid for a week in Belek in last week of April. Our organiser has obviously been talking to YourGolfTravel with the flavour being they would very quickly go bust if everyone received a refund. We expect to claim on our travel insurance assuming the travel embargo goes beyond mid-April.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Get yourself a 4000 piece jigsaw. I'm a bit of a magpie for jisaws from charity shops and have got a great stack of them that have been sitting there just waiting for the day...
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Wow, 4,000 pieces! I am struggling with a circular 1,000 piece Lord of The Rings
Good, (old-fashioned) , pastimes like jigsaw puzzles are quite therapeutic, as are playing cards (patience, solitaire etc), crosswords and Sudoku in 'hard copy' , i.e.NOT on an iPad, tablet.
 
Crazyface said:
Just tried to get in at a local course but told no chance as the seniors have a paddy day shotgun on???????????? How? I asked. Aren't they supposed to be self isolating????? Looks like the seniors are sticking the finger up. What a surprise!!!
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Same seniors that keep many clubs solvent during the winter months and if they are anything like ours have strict procedures in place to manage the process.

Teach you to ring up to check tee times are available
 
Crazyface said:
Just tried to get in at a local course but told no chance as the seniors have a paddy day shotgun on???????????? How? I asked. Aren't they supposed to be self isolating????? Looks like the seniors are sticking the finger up. What a surprise!!!
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The usual unthinking assumptions. The normal age for becoming a Senior is 55 - it's only you assuming that all Seniors are all 70+. The expected reduction in playing numbers at our place has predominantly come from the 70+ group.
 
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