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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Just watching the government briefing on the vaccine, announced the first phase of vaccination, pick your group

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6 for me.

All I personally need now is some sort of timescale, which I know will be largely dependent on the quantity of vaccine available. Clearly, if approval of the Oxford/AZ vaccine follows reasonably swiftly that will have a massive bearing on that.
 
Surprised the Armed Forces, police etc aren't prioritised.

Why would armed forces be prioritised?

Physically fit, working in areas that are inaccessible to the public. Even in the US there's only been 12 military deaths. (that's still horrific). Surely there would be greater effect vaccinating public facing key workers?
 
May sound stupid (and may actually be) but I would vaccinate children pretty early on. I know that covid does not pose much of a threat to them but they can be the unseen spreaders of the disease as they are in situations with a great deal of contact but have a high chance of being asymptomatic and so nobody realises that they have it. The return to schools and universities could be a factor in the increase in cases now. Schools used to be pretty adept at dealing with vaccination programs as so it would seem like a relatively simple task to arrange.
 
That’s the next thing...for after Christmas. Up the exercise as all I do at the moment is aim for average over a week of 10,000 steps a day - excluding golf - and my wife drives that, not me. The weight is one thing but I need to work on my waist as I still have a bit too much of a paunch.
I have increased muscle building exercises using stretch bands and dumbbells as it's so easy to lose muscle mass as you age. I'm really pleased with the results and feeling a lot stronger. I don't count steps but do a fair amount of walking, having the Malverns within a par five from my house is great for that.

Keep up the good work Hogie ?
 
Because the Armed Forces aren't caged up 24 hours a day when they finish work. They still live with and/or spend time with families, friends and the general public, have to go shopping, spend their leisure time doing what everyone else does.
Surely if there's a group of people who need to be vaccinating it's a group of people protecting the country.

Are we in danger of invasion or going to war anytime in the near future?

Many other industries, such as construction. Arguably a bigger group, have also continued to work throughout the pandemic. And are one of the biggest contributors to the economy.
 
Are we in danger of invasion or going to war anytime in the near future?

Many other industries, such as construction. Arguably a bigger group, have also continued to work throughout the pandemic. And are one of the biggest contributors to the economy.
I don’t agree with all the Armed Forces being near the top of the list, but those manning the Test stations or helping deliver the Vaccine should be a priority along with those civilians doing the same roles.

You’ll have to remind though me just how many of those on the building sites have been taken off their day job to man the test stations.
 
I don’t agree with all the Armed Forces being near the top of the list, but those manning the Test stations or helping deliver the Vaccine should be a priority along with those civilians doing the same roles.

You’ll have to remind though me just how many of those on the building sites have been taken off their day job to man the test stations.

Probably not that many. What's that got to do with it. Most of the Armed forces haven't either. And their day jobs aren't one of the few industries left positively contributing to the economy in increasingly difficult conditions.
 
Are we in danger of invasion or going to war anytime in the near future?

Many other industries, such as construction. Arguably a bigger group, have also continued to work throughout the pandemic. And are one of the biggest contributors to the economy.

If another world war kicks off, I suppose the builders on the scaffolding can wolf whistle and tell them to sod off. That should do it. Anyone else remember who built the nightingale hospitals. When the poo hits the fan you will not be asking builders to hold the poo end of the stick.
 
Why would armed forces be prioritised?

Physically fit, working in areas that are inaccessible to the public. Even in the US there's only been 12 military deaths. (that's still horrific). Surely there would be greater effect vaccinating public facing key workers?
Apart from the 10,000 supporting the NHS, many in front line testing.
 
Probably not that many. What's that got to do with it. Most of the Armed forces haven't either. And their day jobs aren't one of the few industries left positively contributing to the economy in increasingly difficult conditions.
Eh! Thousands of the Armed Forces have been mobilised and helping out since day one, during which time your construction industry was in lockdown!
Pointless building stuff if your population is dying and economy is collapsing!
 
If another world war kicks off, I suppose the builders on the scaffolding can wolf whistle and tell them to sod off. That should do it. Anyone else remember who built the nightingale hospitals. When the poo hits the fan you will not be asking builders to hold the poo end of the stick.

I think you're misunderstanding what the construction industry is. The army did a lot of logistical work for the nightingale hospitals. But the construction industry were the brains of the operation and did all the fit out work. I know many people involved.

It was a collaborative effort.
 
I think you're misunderstanding what the construction industry is. The army did a lot of logistical work for the nightingale hospitals. But the construction industry were the brains of the operation and did all the fit out work. I know many people involved.

It was a collaborative effort.
No they didn’t do all the fit out work, I also know many involved, they worked along side the Royal Engineer Construction Trades, who by the way carry out this role worldwide when needed and do it with no input from the UK construction industry, however do they manage??‍♂️

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said: “In the face of this unprecedented global emergency, we are taking exceptional steps to increase NHS capacity so we can treat more patients, fight the virus and save lives.

“I applaud the NHS, engineers, and the military for their continued work on setting up the new NHS Nightingale Hospital so it is ready to open its doors next week – a remarkable feat in these challenging circumstances.”

Military personnel have been involved in the planning stages and continue to support NHS England by providing infrastructure, logistics and project management advice.

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said: “Our military planners and engineers are working hand in hand with the NHS to support their development of the NHS Nightingale Hospital. The Armed Forces have already been distributing personal protective equipment (PPE) to meet the increased demand and we stand ready to assist further in any capacity needed.

“The NHS and our Armed Forces are both world leaders in their fields, and this ambitious project is just one example of what can be achieved when they come together to help the nation.”
 
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