Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

There is going to have to be a global balancing of books once we're though this, talking about which businesses will fail, who will get compensation, who should pay for this or that is pointless at this stage.

The whole world has to solve this pandemic together and then we should look for the best way to pick up the pieces.


Coming back to the affect on me personally, I'd been planning to semi-retire for some time on 31st March and handed in my notice a couple of months back.
The stock market crash has thrown my plan into disarray.
I'm 60, I'm type 1 diabetic, have a heart condition, and am on the flu vaccine programme so I tick a number of boxes for the 12 week self isolation, just when I was hoping to start playing golf 3 or 4 times a week!

No, it's not been good but *** happens, I'm still alive and hope to be in 18 months time when things might be getting back to normal.
 
rudebhoy said:
Proper measures? - ban mass gatherings, close pubs etc to avoid putting staff and punters at risk. Even Trump has done this, all this blithering idiot can do is say "we are not going to support mass gatherings " - what does that even mean?

Provide some meaningful support for business like Macron is doing.

BJ is totally failing to provide leadership. And he is getting a very easy ride from the press. Nothing new there.
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If you listened to the PM you would have heard that he said they would not "support" big events with NHS staff because they do not want medics to be diverted from their core purpose.

The government intends to release business support plans in due course.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
As I write there are three men standing fair and square in front of the Nation telling us how they intend to proceed.
Stop this carping on about a man with horns in the background deciding other different strategies that we aren't being told about.
You always seem to need someone to be the baddie . Party politics is not involved in this!
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I have no issue whatsoever with everything that the government is doing in conjunction with its scientific and medical advisors. And I have no better or different alternative. I trust in what I am hearing and what I am being told I must do. I simply wish that Cummings was not involved given his track record. That’s not political - it’s just him. I remain impressed with the way Johnson is handling this. I want to hear a bit more about the government will support business, self-employed, the unsalaried with minimum or no employment rights and the poorest individuals. Because if hope goes then we risk anarchy.

I hear this evening an interview with the Times science editor (from an official briefing given this evening by the governments modelling and analysis team) that this could go on for many months more than the 3-4 currently suggested - potentially 9 months - a year. Some of us will be able to cope just about ok through whatever is required - many many just wont. The Times guy painted a very worrying and very scary picture of our future.

My irritation that Cummings is involved is irrelevant and I dismiss it as such.
 
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looking at china, especially wuhan, it looks like they are starting to get back to normal after mass isolation
we seem too slow to stop flights, events etc
several selfish people who decided to go abroad, are now self isolating so we have to cover these for no extra pay
we have been too slow to react on everything
 
SiL has just closed his hotel.
He will probably save money as last weeks takings were dreadful and most future bookings are cancelling.
He is not able to claim insurance because of Government's wording of statement.
 
So I have a go at my manager yest for letting in someone to the building he shouldn't

Guess who went off yesterday self isolating

Well done ..
 
GB72 said:
Out of interest I have had 2 local restaurants comment on social media that global pandemic is not covered on their insurance and so a forced closure would not have allowed a claim
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We have business interruption cover but pandemics are not covered, we checked. Expect to see a good number of 'accidental ' fires in the coming weeks.
 
Had another word with head manager this time

Someone who is allowed in the building that's fine but just comes in the control room

I get we could get in anyways .. but he shouldn't be just walking in the room. Protect the room best we can

Words were had..he will now avoid the room

Good
 
Just seen Idris Elba on news, he has coronavirus and put on social media advising people to be careful.
His wife/ partner/ daughter is standing at his shoulder ?
 
I liked the cartoon with the farmer, surrounded by his sheep, sitting in his lounge on the phone saying he has been forced to work from home.

Always the organiser Lady Doon has just booked her July hair appointment.
God knows what we will look like after no hairdresser for 3 months.:love:
 
Well, that's my second customer cancelled so just having my breakfast and heading home. When I checked with them last night, it was still on but when he came in to work today they said they were not allowing visitors on site. I can't say I'm surprised and best thing for them to do.
 
If your business is going under (as thousands now will) and your insured for fire but not a pandemic, a percentage will do the drastic, dangerous and illegal thing and torch it, happens in normal times, never mind a global economic meltdown. Afraid that's what happens when humans get really desperate.

To juxtapose that Insurance companies are experts at taking a high premium then weedling out of payouts via legal jargon and endless small print. Seen it time and again.

Imo there are not enough police or army to deal with widespread social breakdown here.
Situation is really not good and govt knows it. How long before gangs start, then intimidation etc.

There will never be enough ventilators or hospital beds, people are being left on hospital floors before this even started.
Les hope they get a vaccine sorted for 7 billion people soon!:oops:

I'm not salaried any more, mrs has a retail business reliant on tourism which I'm helping with amongst trying to set up a small business myself and hers could be forced to close to public, I also have type 1 diabetes so should do the 12 week isolating thing, 2 kids, mortgage, limited savings. Getting more than worried now.

To boot no Masters to watch next month.:mad:

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maxfli65 said:
If your business is going under (as thousands now will) and your insured for fire but not a pandemic, a percentage will do the drastic, dangerous and illegal thing and torch it, happens in normal times, never mind a global economic meltdown. Afraid that's what happens when humans get really desperate.

To juxtapose that Insurance companies are experts at taking a high premium then weedling out of payouts via legal jargon and endless small print. Seen it time and again.

Imo there are not enough police or army to deal with widespread social breakdown here.
Situation is really not good and govt knows it. How long before gangs start, then intimidation etc.

There will never be enough ventilators or hospital beds, people are being left on hospital floors before this even started.
Les hope they get a vaccine sorted for 7 billion people soon!:oops:

I'm not salaried any more, mrs has a retail business reliant on tourism which I'm helping with amongst trying to set up a small business myself and hers could be forced to close to public, I also have type 1 diabetes so should do the 12 week isolating thing, 2 kids, mortgage, limited savings. Getting more than worried now.

To boot no Masters to watch next month.:mad:

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It's not self isolating just yet, only social distancing.
 
Given the briefing given by the scientists and modellers last night - and what i have heard from the group this morning on Today - then given more recent data from Italy in particular, the measures we had in place up to this coming weekend would quite likely be catastrophic in terms of deaths. That’s why the more severe measures are coming in; schools to close on Friday? and the likelihood of lockdown to support the new measures. Because inconvenient as things seem today we cannot just continue with the current measures - and must adhere to the new restrictions; and as the strength of any security is its weakest link they will probably have to be enforced.
 
Papas1982 said:
Not if the old self isolate as advised.

There could be a stark choice for grandparents.
Don't see grandkids for a few months and then see em for years.

Or see em for the next few months. Full stop.
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What about a parent in one of the other vulnerable groups, a pregnant mum or parent with underlying health conditions? If they are advised to self isolate what do they do about their kids? Do they keep them off school for the 12 weeks or continue to send them to school and keep their fingers crossed that they don't pick up the virus? Does their partner continue to go to work or do they also have to stay at home for 12 weeks?
 
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