Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[ColchesterFC]

It's very unclear , very vague

Work haven't told her yet. Another school called all pregnent employees and said don't come in

She hasn't had a call yet

They may close the schools from next week anyways

Very messy

This is from the BBC article (about half way down).....

"Chief medical adviser Prof Chris Whitty said the group of people who should take "particular care to minimise their social contact" were:

• People over the age of 70
• Other adults who would normally be advised to have the flu vaccine (such as those with chronic diseases)
• Pregnant women"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51917562

 

[Deleted member 21784]

This is from the BBC article (about half way down).....

"Chief medical adviser Prof Chris Whitty said the group of people who should take "particular care to minimise their social contact" were:

• People over the age of 70
• Other adults who would normally be advised to have the flu vaccine (such as those with chronic diseases)
• Pregnant women"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51917562

The key part is social contact

Work isn't social which they have been very clever with saying

She is going to speak to work tomorrow

 

[hovis]

I'm a little suprised with local golf comps being cancelled. surely by nature of golf we can be responsible and play a round of without contaminating our playing partners. blimey, at best I'm constantly 150 yards away from my playing partners (sideways that it). I understand the clubhouse situation though

 

[ColchesterFC]

I hate the tories with utter disdain and if it were possible would blame them for this outbreak but I fail to see what else the government can do other than what they have been doing.

I'm pretty much the opposite. Generally my political leanings are right of centre. Up until the last couple of days I thought they'd been handling it OK but now I think they're dropping the ball. The advice all seems to be very wishy-washy with no absolute clear guidance. You only have to look at some of the replies on here to see that lots of people will have very little idea of who should be doing what and when. Either shut bars, restaurants etc or don't. But don't simply advise people to stay away. It's as though they're scared to make a decision in case it's the wrong one. That's not a sign of good leadership.

 

[hovis]

I'm pretty much the opposite. Generally my political leanings are right of centre. Up until the last couple of days I thought they'd been handling it OK but now I think they're dropping the ball. The advice all seems to be very wishy-washy with no absolute clear guidance. You only have to look at some of the replies on here to see that lots of people will have very little idea of who should be doing what and when. Either shut bars, restaurants etc or don't. But don't simply advise people to stay away. It's as though they're scared to make a decision in case it's the wrong one. That's not a sign of good leadership.

to me it's simple and very clear what the government are saying. I don't need to see a closed sign on a bar or restaurant window not to go in. Boris said stay away from social places so I will. how more simple can that be!

 

[Jimaroid]

to me it's simple and very clear what the government are saying. I don't need to see a closed sign on a bar or restaurant window not to go in. Boris said stay away from social places so I will. how more simple can that be!

Not at all simple if you’re the landlord or an employer.

 

[ColchesterFC]

to me it's simple and very clear what the government are saying. I don't need to see a closed sign on a bar or restaurant window not to go in. Boris said stay away from social places so I will. how more simple can that be!

And if you're the owner of that business who is unable to claim insurance for business disruption because Boris hasn't ordered you to close but has told your customers not to visit?

 

[GB72]

I get a feeling that the advice will change if needed. Today is advice, don't cause panic and give people the chance to act and behave responsibly. Give it a couple of days and closures will be enforced if people cannot act responsibly but the news is already out there and so may illicit a less panicked response.

 

[User20204]

And if you're the owner of that business who is unable to claim insurance for business disruption because Boris hasn't ordered you to close but has told your customers not to visit?

Never mind the business owners, what about their employees or those who depend on the customers of these businesses. There is an enormous knock on effect for many many more than just these business owners.

 

[hovis]

And if you're the owner of that business who is unable to claim insurance for business disruption because Boris hasn't ordered you to close but has told your customers not to visit?

and then people would just be saying that Boris has just crushed the insurance industry because he "ordered" the closures. if only he just said "stay away" then it would have been OK. unfortunately there are going to be loosers no matter what way he went

 

[hovis]

I get a feeling that the advice will change if needed. Today is advice, don't cause panic and give people the chance to act and behave responsibly. Give it a couple of days and closures will be enforced if people cannot act responsibly but the news is already out there and so may illicit a less panicked response.

exactly. so many experts that think they no how to better run a country ?

 

[Blue in Munich]

to me it's simple and very clear what the government are saying. I don't need to see a closed sign on a bar or restaurant window not to go in. Boris said stay away from social places so I will. how more simple can that be!

It can simply make the edict. The Scottish Government asked organisers to cancel or postpone the event despite not having the power to do so. Boris asks people not to go, thus passing on the onus to the individual. I was holding tickets costing £228 for a theatre show tonight. If I make the decision not to go I lose £228; if the show is cancelled then I get a refund. Boris should be doing what the Scottish Government did.

 

[hovis]

It can simply make the edict. The Scottish Government asked organisers to cancel or postpone the event despite not having the power to do so. Boris asks people not to go, thus passing on the onus to the individual. I was holding tickets costing £228 for a theatre show tonight. If I make the decision not to go I lose £228; if the show is cancelled then I get a refund. Boris should be doing what the Scottish Government did.

so it's boris's fault that you lost £228? really? I recently managed to get one day of skiing in Italy. if Boris had advised against travel to Italy 2 days earlier I wouldn't have lost £700. its not his fault its the virus fault. its up to the organisers of your event to do the honorable thing and allow you to cancel. its not the prime misters fault that they are going to stiff you for the money

 

[ColchesterFC]

exactly. so many experts that think they no how to better run a country ?

Yeah imagine being one of those experts that thinks that they know better how to run a country........

I just can't get my head round governments decision around the world. we have a deadly virus in China that's spreading like wild fire. I know let's bring all them people back into our country!!!!! at the time it initially broke out I remember saying "it's simple, no one leaves the country unless tested or had 14 days isolation".

that clearly is a massive task to undertake but look at where we are now. if it was that simple to a thicko like me then why wasn't this carried out?

 

[hovis]

Yeah imagine being one of those experts that thinks that they know better how to run a country........

yeh, and. I said I can't get my head round what seemed to be a simple decision!. I imagine if it was that easy It would have been done. I'd like to know why it wasn't

 

[backwoodsman]

and then people would just be saying that Boris has just crushed the insurance industry because he "ordered" the closures. if only he just said "stay away" then it would have been OK. unfortunately there are going to be loosers no matter what way he went

So, we're comfortable that Boris seems to be protecting big business whilst stuffing small to medium enterprises - and more importantly, their employees? The financial markets are not the be all & end all of the British economy - which needs to be safeguarded as much as our public health.

 

[hovis]

So, we're comfortable that Boris seems to be protecting big business whilst stuffing small to medium enterprises - and more importantly, their employees? The financial markets are not the be all & end all of the British economy - which needs to be safeguarded as much as our public health.

not all insurance companies are big. and the big ones employ staff too. unfortunately we're in a crap situation. people are going to suffer no matter what road he takes. I'm sure people who sit at a desk selling insurance would have a different opinion to you

 

[Kellfire]

not all insurance companies are big. and the big ones employ staff too. unfortunately we're in a crap situation. people are going to suffer no matter what road he takes. I'm sure people who sit at a desk selling insurance would have a different opinion to you

What’s the point in an insurance company if they can’t survive something like this? They exist exactly for situations like this!

 

[hovis]

What’s the point in an insurance company if they can’t survive something like this? They exist exactly for situations like this!

after the floods I wouldn't like to see the books of even the biggest companies. if anything, the insurance industry has already taken one almighty beating

 

[Blue in Munich]

so it's boris's fault that you lost £228? really? I recently managed to get one day of skiing in Italy. if Boris had advised against travel to Italy 2 days earlier I wouldn't have lost £700. its not his fault its the virus fault. its up to the organisers of your event to do the honorable thing and allow you to cancel. its not the prime misters fault that they are going to stiff you for the money

I didn't say the virus was his fault; I said the lack of leadership was the issue. Someone else on here (Robster59?) pointed out that after the Scottish Government's pronouncement the show he was due to see was cancelled & patrons advised that they would be refunded. The Scottish Government took the bull by the horns & lead.

Boris's advice of don't go left the onus on the patrons to shoulder the cost. Make the pronouncement & then we can get the money back via the ticket insurance. Just don't bother to turn up & you shoulder the cost with no recourse to your insurance.

He wanted the job of leader, I'm expecting him to lead (but I'm not holding my breath...).