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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
Its a tough one Dave, and embarrassing. Think of it from the supplier's perspective. You have 100 boxes of PPE on the shelf. Your Sales guy knows the users in the UK are desperate for it but can't find a buyer. A Frenchman rings up and says "allo, allo. Can I buy ze boxes of PPE you 'ave on ze shelves?" Would you say no?

I'd lay this one at NHS Procurement's door, for which Hancock is the boss. Someone's la bas needs kicking.
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Still laughing at this :LOL:. Is the Frenchman asking this, leaning back in a chair with an expresso and a fag in his hand, barely a care in the world?

Incidentally, I hope the Frenchman is not in a hurry. It has just taken 3 weeks for a pallet to reach our customer just outside of Paris. It is normally 4 working days, this time 16 working days :eek:
 
Think this whole thing has my mental health spiralling downwards quickly. I’m a pessimist at the best of times and I can’t shake thoughts now that this may be life for ever - I keep entertaining a real worst case scenario that we never find a vaccine and it mutates so quickly we don’t build any natural immunity.

Ah, the prison that is our own four walls at times.
 
Kellfire said:
Think this whole thing has my mental health spiralling downwards quickly. I’m a pessimist at the best of times and I can’t shake thoughts now that this may be life for ever - I keep entertaining a real worst case scenario that we never find a vaccine and it mutates so quickly we don’t build any natural immunity.

Ah, the prison that is our own four walls at times.
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You really do inspire happiness ???
 
Kellfire said:
Think this whole thing has my mental health spiralling downwards quickly. I’m a pessimist at the best of times and I can’t shake thoughts now that this may be life for ever - I keep entertaining a real worst case scenario that we never find a vaccine and it mutates so quickly we don’t build any natural immunity.

Ah, the prison that is our own four walls at times.
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Ok so given that worst case...

Hmmm I'm trying to find the positive as I'm a naive optimist, think the best kind if person.

Ok...so a huge percentage of those that catch the virus don't get very ill at all. That's about the best I can come up with but is where my thoughts would go. Each covid season I might catch the virus and I might not. Like I might catch the flu or I might not. Likelihood is not and if I do then a week feeling rubbish and back to normal life.
 
Add to that a survival of the fittest and I guess in time it would weed the weak from the strong and death rates would drop...

Does that help :eek::eek::eek:
 
AmandaJR said:
Ok so given that worst case...

Hmmm I'm trying to find the positive as I'm a naive optimist, think the best kind if person.

Ok...so a huge percentage of those that catch the virus don't get very ill at all. That's about the best I can come up with but is where my thoughts would go. Each covid season I might catch the virus and I might not. Like I might catch the flu or I might not. Likelihood is not and if I do then a week feeling rubbish and back to normal life.
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But we know the virus can affect even the otherwise healthy - what if a mutation lends it a slightly different pathway for its interaction with our body? One strain that was asymptomatic could mutate into one that is deadly to the same person.

I need a drink. ?
 
Treasury v Dept of Health - the classic dilemma between Money and Morals.

Morally we would always expect to protect life as best we can however with time medical care improves and that comes with a cost.

Unfortunately, once you accept that you can have morals but only if you afford them it becomes very difficult. Medical companies will make a profit from PPE, breathing equipment, vaccinations, etc. so is that right because they benefit through people’s suffering? People now live longer and it is likely that they need greater medical intervention with age - more sophisticated medicines/care = more profit to the medical industry!

Consequently because people now live longer while not being economically productive that might suggest it’s cheaper for a nation to let people die.

In the UK we take a high moral stance and as the Covid19 policy shows Government policy has been to accept the economic consequences. But for how long can we as citizens expect that to last? When are we going to say the cost is too high, will we adjust our morals and start rationing care?
 
Kellfire said:
But we know the virus can affect even the otherwise healthy - what if a mutation lends it a slightly different pathway for its interaction with our body? One strain that was asymptomatic could mutate into one that is deadly to the same person.

I need a drink. ?
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The over population issue would be solved and the planet (and polar bears in particular who I do worry about) would be fine?
 
AmandaJR said:
The over population issue would be solved and the planet (and polar bears in particular who I do worry about) would be fine?
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Could it be nature trying to restore the balance is classed as an optimistic outlook as it has lowered emissions and cleared our waters of pollution.

Like you I always look for a positive ?
 
drdel said:
Treasury v Dept of Health - the classic dilemma between Money and Morals.

Morally we would always expect to protect life as best we can however with time medical care improves and that comes with a cost.

Unfortunately, once you accept that you can have morals but only if you afford them it becomes very difficult. Medical companies will make a profit from PPE, breathing equipment, vaccinations, etc. so is that right because they benefit through people’s suffering? People now live longer and it is likely that they need greater medical intervention with age - more sophisticated medicines/care = more profit to the medical industry!

Consequently because people now live longer while not being economically productive that might suggest it’s cheaper for a nation to let people die.

In the UK we take a high moral stance and as the Covid19 policy shows Government policy has been to accept the economic consequences. But for how long can we as citizens expect that to last? When are we going to say the cost is too high, will we adjust our morals and start rationing care?
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What do you think?
 
drdel said:
Treasury v Dept of Health - the classic dilemma between Money and Morals.

Morally we would always expect to protect life as best we can however with time medical care improves and that comes with a cost.

Unfortunately, once you accept that you can have morals but only if you afford them it becomes very difficult. Medical companies will make a profit from PPE, breathing equipment, vaccinations, etc. so is that right because they benefit through people’s suffering? People now live longer and it is likely that they need greater medical intervention with age - more sophisticated medicines/care = more profit to the medical industry!

Consequently because people now live longer while not being economically productive that might suggest it’s cheaper for a nation to let people die.

In the UK we take a high moral stance and as the Covid19 policy shows Government policy has been to accept the economic consequences. But for how long can we as citizens expect that to last? When are we going to say the cost is too high, will we adjust our morals and start rationing care?
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To answer the last question, we already are by accounts from doctors - there aren’t enough tests and there aren’t enough ICU beds in some areas.
 
Kellfire said:
Think this whole thing has my mental health spiralling downwards quickly. I’m a pessimist at the best of times and I can’t shake thoughts now that this may be life for ever - I keep entertaining a real worst case scenario that we never find a vaccine and it mutates so quickly we don’t build any natural immunity.

Ah, the prison that is our own four walls at times.
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I suppose if there was not cure of vaccine, research focus would move on to PPE for the general public. We may go out wearing masks etc but we would go out.
 
TRBL info sent to Regt Secs

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This is an extract from Bob Gambles letter to Regimental Secretaries. The advent of the Covid-19 crisis has forced the cancellation of a number of events with VE75 perhaps being the most notable....At 11:00 on Friday 8 May we very much hope that you will join others by marking this important moment in whichever way you deem appropriate. In this significant anniversary year, and at this very unsettled time, it would be a poignant symbol of hope and solidarity to all members of our community, to see us visibly acknowledging the contribution of a generation to whom we owe so much and will act as a timely reminder to those of our comrades who may need our collective support that they are not alone.

You may wish to mark the occasion by standing proudly in your garden, at your front door or at a window during the Two Minute Silence. We also hope that this simple act will show the members of that generation and those with more contemporary roles that live within all of our communities that we honour and respect them even during this time of national crisis. The BBC are covering this day with various televised events. Stay Safe...

With best wishes
 
We've almost got to a point here where we are looking for a reason?
Nature resolving a situation?
Trying to be light hearted a bit, I have a seed of a theory that this wonderful weather we have had since all this started, leads me to think we are some sort of computer game where someone is playing some wicked moves?
I.e., now they're on lockdown I'll change the weather from rain to brilliant spring sunshine?
 
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