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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I have just seen an information "advert" giving facts about covid19.
First one- the virus can live on hard surfaces for up to 72 hours.
Second one- there is no evidence that you can catch the virus from mail or postal packages.

Oh, yeh? Course there's no evidence. There's no evidence that any particular person caught the virus from any particular source. But we can assume it is from likely places, obviously.
As for that "advice", my post is laying dormant for a day or two before I touch it. And then I do so as if it is contaminated.
How much difference is there between the surface of an envelope and other surfaces?
 
We don't want any of you germ laden Brits here!

It still to be voted on Robin. The President of Andalucia, which includes Malaga/south coast, wants hotels to be open by the beginning of Sept.

Where does Benidorm figure in that.
 
I have just seen an information "advert" giving facts about covid19.
First one- the virus can live on hard surfaces for up to 72 hours.
Second one- there is no evidence that you can catch the virus from mail or postal packages.

Oh, yeh? Course there's no evidence. There's no evidence that any particular person caught the virus from any particular source. But we can assume it is from likely places, obviously.
As for that "advice", my post is laying dormant for a day or two before I touch it. And then I do so as if it is contaminated.
How much difference is there between the surface of an envelope and other surfaces?
Is it something to do with the porous nature of the surface? The phrase 'hard surface' is common in talks about viruses, removing a virus etc so I guess that must have something to do with it. Just googled it, see below:

The absorbent natural fibres in cardboard, however, may cause the virus to dry up more quickly than on plastic and metal, suggests Vincent Munster, head of the virus ecology section at Rocky Mountain Laboratories and one of those who led the NIH study. “We speculate due to the porous material, it desiccates rapidly and might be stuck to the fibres,

I guess that hard surfaces are the optimum for viruses so they can survive on those the longest. Every other surface, it will survive for less time. Cardboard is approx 24 hours, it did not mention paper. The virus does not like heat apparently so put your post in a greenhouse for a day if you have one.
 
what I want to know is how so many people are presenting themselves to hospital 4 weeks after the lockdown. how are they catching it? is it the morons that break the rules, key workers or transmitted through cats ?. surely this number should be very low by now
 
Her work has confirmed - Mrs SiLH is being furloughed after this week - finishes tomorrow...

Feels a bit guilty about being paid for not working.

Told her that her work needs her to not be working - as a charity they can't afford to keep paying her as their giving income has dropped off a cliff.
 
Is it something to do with the porous nature of the surface? The phrase 'hard surface' is common in talks about viruses, removing a virus etc so I guess that must have something to do with it. Just googled it, see below:

The absorbent natural fibres in cardboard, however, may cause the virus to dry up more quickly than on plastic and metal, suggests Vincent Munster, head of the virus ecology section at Rocky Mountain Laboratories and one of those who led the NIH study. “We speculate due to the porous material, it desiccates rapidly and might be stuck to the fibres,

I guess that hard surfaces are the optimum for viruses so they can survive on those the longest. Every other surface, it will survive for less time. Cardboard is approx 24 hours, it did not mention paper. The virus does not like heat apparently so put your post in a greenhouse for a day if you have one.
That was my thinking before and despite the advert. If you and I and Mr Munster are correct, then it means there is a risk. Reduced compared with that on hard surfaces, but still a risk.
On top of which, much mail is plastic surfaced, or shiny surfaced, sonto my mind I feel the "advert" is totally irresponsible.
 
That was my thinking before and despite the advert. If you and I and Mr Munster are correct, then it means there is a risk. Reduced compared with that on hard surfaces, but still a risk.
On top of which, much mail is plastic surfaced, or shiny surfaced, sonto my mind I feel the "advert" is totally irresponsible.

I've got some tight blue rubber gloves that I wear when I sort the post. When its all in the bin, I wash my gloved hands, dry them then take them off
 
That was my thinking before and despite the advert. If you and I and Mr Munster are correct, then it means there is a risk. Reduced compared with that on hard surfaces, but still a risk.
On top of which, much mail is plastic surfaced, or shiny surfaced, sonto my mind I feel the "advert" is totally irresponsible.
Similar for items sent in reinforced plastic bags. We rarely get much post, most things are emailed to me, but when it comes I open it, bin the packaging, wash my hands, come back, read it, wash my hands. It's about getting into a routine I guess.

The one that annoys me, I'm sure it annoys everyone, is the freebie stuff that gets put through the door. This really isn't the time for it and that stuff gets left on the floor for 2 days before going straight into the recycle bin.
 
Similar for items sent in reinforced plastic bags. We rarely get much post, most things are emailed to me, but when it comes I open it, bin the packaging, wash my hands, come back, read it, wash my hands. It's about getting into a routine I guess.

The one that annoys me, I'm sure it annoys everyone, is the freebie stuff that gets put through the door. This really isn't the time for it and that stuff gets left on the floor for 2 days before going straight into the recycle bin.
I think they've got the message around here...no junk mail for 2 weeks at least.....
 
I've got some tight blue rubber gloves that I wear when I sort the post. When its all in the bin, I wash my gloved hands, dry them then take them off

They have advised this is easiest way to cross contaminate

Gloves hold more than skin

Could easily sort the post as you were then just wash your hands

There's a few videos from drs on it
 
Well up until today it had been an inconvenience.

Unfortunately I've just had the call I didn't want. My uncle (father figure in formative years) has hours left.
Having been admitted 8 days ago his kidneys has subsequently given up the ghost as well as other functions.

My cousins a mess and I've now got an evening of phones calls ahead as she's in not fit state to pass the news.

Dreading calling mum tbh. Seriously considering taking a permit to travel Form from the office and driving to soton tbh.
 
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Well up until today it had been an inconvenience.

Unfortunately I've just had the call I didn't want. My uncle (father figure in formative years) has hours left.
Having been submitted 8 days ago his kidneys has subsequently given up the ghost as well as other functions.

My cousins a mess and I've now got an evening of phones calls ahead as she's in not fit state to pass the news.

Dreading calling mum tbh. Seriously considering taking a permit to travel Form from the office and driving to soton tbh.

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Take care.
 
Well up until today it had been an inconvenience.

Unfortunately I've just had the call I didn't want. My uncle (father figure in formative years) has hours left.
Having been admitted 8 days ago his kidneys has subsequently given up the ghost as well as other functions.

My cousins a mess and I've now got an evening of phones calls ahead as she's in not fit state to pass the news.

Dreading calling mum tbh. Seriously considering taking a permit to travel Form from the office and driving to soton tbh.
Sorry to hear that Dave...good luck with it.
Sad times....
 
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