Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Doon frae Troon said:
I just get the feeling we are not being told the full story.
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I don't particularly feel this way. I think there's lots of things that people don't know, but that's not the same as hiding it. For me, the biggest problem is the huge number of people who know nothing at all making a great deal of noise and making it hard to figure out what's real.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Managed to get my 95 year old mum into a care home this week which was a huge relief.
Our daughters and a family member in the know are telling us to self isolate for a fortnight which I think we will do. My wife has some health problems but not really respiratory, just to be on the safe side.
I really do not know what to make of this, being critical, worldwide deaths are still below the population of Slough so in the big scale of things it should not be a massive problem. I just get the feeling we are not being told the full story.
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My mother is 92, generally quite fit for her age and lives on her own, wont move, she just had a nasty norovirus which really flattened her and has had pneumonia in the past. If she gets corona it'll finish her I think. Very difficult to tell her not to let people in as she's very sociable. Having seen her neighbour and good friend just die over a miserable 2 year cancer struggle she said this week if corona gets her at least it'll be relatively quick, seems to be how she sees it. Trying to get her to minimise contact with people but I'm wasting my time.

wrt the full picture there is a degree of unprecedentedness with this virus in terms of it's spread, 96% matches a bat virus and seems to have come from bats and by chance finds humans a better host. It kills by turning up the body's immune system so hard it ends up in multiple organ failure, if it doesn't drown you first through pneumonia. Mortality is 7% in italy and 1% in Korea, no-one is sure why that is.
I dont think we're not being told anything important, just they'll need months to get a vaccine tested and produced. Until then I'm not sure how it can be completely eradicated as it's worldwide and hot/cold weather will alternate between hemispheres. You can read about how it kills everywhere online so that's not hidden, may have been a bit of trying not to put the fear and panic into everyone from govt but these days you can't keep anything secret.

Feels like it's caught us on the hop, we all saw the China pictures months ago yet didn't really think it would be a big problem for us or we put our heads in the sand.
 
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Work wise We have been spoken to about short time work if business drops off .
If we feel unwell ring doc take 3 days off . U will b paid once u have doc reciept .
We can take holidays or unpaid leave .

I asked what if a family member has symptoms and i dont . Do i come in or not ? if they not paying me. im coming in . Cant afford not to .. blank stare response

I just threw in could they not take it outa my bonus From wages they saved when manager left (not replaced yet) and other guy went sick for 15 weeks .. all purchase and sales targets met .. blank stare was response. Again .

Loadsa experts til u want an answer
 
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Brother's ski trip to Austria cancelled as all ski resorts closing this weekend.

US based sister travelling back today and their half full flight is now full - get home whilst you can!

Nephew's boss has been tested and suspected to have it so he's self isolating for 7 days.

It's a worrying time. Personally fit and healthy so not worried about catching it rather than the worldwide effects (stock markets, economies etc).
 
Home wise .
88 yr old mam alota medical problems . Hopefuly my bro who lives at home doesnt get it .. grandkids not calling down is what she will miss most .

Eldest girl in spain for college . She staying put living outa the town , sun and pool . 4 of her house sharing pals on way home . Spanish family who own house are great..

Looking from across the water and whats going on in mainland europe it genuinely looks like yer Gov burying their heads ib hope
Not saying theyr wrong we are right by the way
No idea how diff so called experts of the world can use such differrnt tactics
 
maxfli65 said:
My mother is 92, generally quite fit for her age and lives on her own, wont move, she just had a nasty norovirus which really flattened her and has had pneumonia in the past. If she gets corona it'll finish her I think. Very difficult to tell her not to let people in as she's very sociable. Having seen her neighbour and good friend just die over a miserable 2 year cancer struggle she said this week if corona gets her at least it'll be relatively quick, seems to be how she sees it. Trying to get her to minimise contact with people but I'm wasting my time.

wrt the full picture there is a degree of unprecedentedness with this virus in terms of it's spread, 96% matches a bat virus and seems to have come from bats and by chance finds humans a better host. It kills by turning up the body's immune system so hard it ends up in multiple organ failure, if it doesn't drown you first through pneumonia. Mortality is 7% in italy and 1% in Korea, no-one is sure why that is.
I dont think we're not being told anything important, just they'll need months to get a vaccine tested and produced. Until then I'm not sure how it can be completely eradicated as it's worldwide and hot/cold weather will alternate between hemispheres. You can read about how it kills everywhere online so that's not hidden, may have been a bit of trying not to put the fear and panic into everyone from govt but these days you can't keep anything secret.

Feels like it's caught us on the hop, we all saw the China pictures months ago yet didn't really think it would be a big problem for us or we put our heads in the sand.
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^^^ The estimated mortality figures are generally reckoned to be much too high. Current rates are largely based on the Chines situation and based on the number of reported/confirmed positive cases where there was a significant delay in tests and since for many people the illness can be mild these will not have been counted; so the 'denominator' in the estimates may be substantially higher. This is estimated to mean the 'true' rate may be at least half !!
 
Took advantage of the "permission to travel" locally to supermarkets. The queues weren't to bad but the meat counter and bog roll shelves were bereft of product. With the tinned meats, tuna, baked beans and soups we now have 2 weeks worth of food bar bread beyond the 24th, and milk beyond the 26th.

A random irritation; HID asking "should we get 1 tin of beans or 2?" … "er, how about getting 6!"
Random irritation #2; "should we get 1 tin of tuna or 2?".... "er, how about 4!"

And random irritation #3; HID strolling around like its a gentle walk in the park. Half the people shopping arrived from northern Spain last night, the traffic on the motorway last night was mental, running from Spain's epicentre/bringing it south.
 
drdel said:
^^^ The estimated mortality figures are generally reckoned to be much too high. Current rates are largely based on the Chines situation and based on the number of reported/confirmed positive cases where there was a significant delay in tests and since for many people the illness can be mild these will not have been counted; so the 'denominator' in the estimates may be substantially higher. This is estimated to mean the 'true' rate may be at least half !!
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Yes should have said % of those diagnosed, appreciate many people will just ride it out at home and not be 'counted'.
 
Hobbit said:
Took advantage of the "permission to travel" locally to supermarkets. The queues weren't to bad but the meat counter and bog roll shelves were bereft of product. With the tinned meats, tuna, baked beans and soups we now have 2 weeks worth of food bar bread beyond the 24th, and milk beyond the 26th.

A random irritation; HID asking "should we get 1 tin of beans or 2?" … "er, how about getting 6!"
Random irritation #2; "should we get 1 tin of tuna or 2?".... "er, how about 4!"

And random irritation #3; HID strolling around like its a gentle walk in the park. Half the people shopping arrived from northern Spain last night, the traffic on the motorway last night was mental, running from Spain's epicentre/bringing it south.
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Unfortunately the 'panic' is infectious and even normally reasonable and sensible people are forced to put themselves first. Its not helped by the media dragging Tom, Dick and Harry out to rubbish the qualified medics just to make a story rather than helping provide rational guidance and information.
 
drdel said:
Unfortunately the 'panic' is infectious and even normally reasonable and sensible people are forced to put themselves first. Its not helped by the media dragging Tom, Dick and Harry out to rubbish the qualified medics just to make a story rather than helping provide rational guidance and information.
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Not exactly panic, but in the local pub last night I was nebbing a conversation and they were suggesting millions had actually died in China, the Chinese government were covering the whole thing up. I had to interject and call it BS ?
 
bladeplayer said:
Work wise We have been spoken to about short time work if business drops off .
If we feel unwell ring doc take 3 days off . U will b paid once u have doc reciept .
We can take holidays or unpaid leave .

I asked what if a family member has symptoms and i dont . Do i come in or not ? if they not paying me. im coming in . Cant afford not to .. blank stare response

I just threw in could they not take it outa my bonus From wages they saved when manager left (not replaced yet) and other guy went sick for 15 weeks .. all purchase and sales targets met .. blank stare was response. Again .

Loadsa experts til u want an answer
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You'd best hope you don't ever need an 'expert' surgeon....
 
Beezerk said:
Not exactly panic, but in the local pub last night I was nebbing a conversation and they were suggesting millions had actually died in China, the Chinese government were covering the whole thing up. I had to interject and call it BS ?
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I definitely believe the Chinese government will be hiding the extent of their problem. It’s all too convenient that they’re claiming to have it under control.
 
Kellfire said:
I definitely believe the Chinese government will be hiding the extent of their problem. It’s all too convenient that they’re claiming to have it under control.
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Maybe, but what they were claiming last night was unrealistic. If millions had died of it in China why haven't millions also died around the world?
 
Hobbit said:
Took advan:ROFLMAO:permission to travel" locally to supermarkets. The queues weren't to bad but the meat counter and bog roll shelves were bereft of product. With the tinned meats, tuna, baked beans and soups we now have 2 weeks worth of food bar bread beyond the 24th, and milk beyond the 26th.

A random irritation; HID asking "should we get 1 tin of beans or 2?" … "er, how about getting 6!"
Random irritation #2; "should we get 1 tin of tuna or 2?".... "er, how about 4!"

And random irritation #3; HID strolling around like its a gentle walk in the park. Half the people shopping arrived from northern Spain last night, the traffic on the motorway last night was mental, running from Spain's epicentre/bringing it south.
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Made me think of this sketch, I bet that tin of tuna will get eaten now

 
Can't find proper information anywhere but do you work during a lockdown?

In Italy I read they can go to and from work only but dunno how true it is

I know public transport is running there so I would have to work..doesn't bother me

Just wondering
 
Seriously though, if someone needs 4 massive multipacks of toilet rolls they should have seen a doc long ago.

Coat got, I'm off, or I would be if we weren't on lockdown.... shamelessly stolen
 
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