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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

3offTheTee said:
Bit of a dilemma.. Heart and head scenario. Flight booked to Fuerterventura with Ryanair on 8/1/22. They have cancelled ALL other flights to FUE for around 6 weeks, not returning with them. the plane is around 25% full and we have been to Spain earlier this year and know about the form filling plus additional requirements now.

2 week trip and returning from Lanzarote. No “spring chickens” Captain Ron but fully jabbed. Will probably wait for another 10 days to decide but thoughts would be appreciated.
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About flying with Ryanair or Covid?
 
Ethan said:
Oh grow up. Balance - hahahahahaha. The last thing that piece of drivel brings is balance.

It is perfectly right and proper for me to comment on other opinions and the people that make them. If Pfizer did a piece saying the vaccines were great, you would say 'they would say that, wouldn't they', so when a paper well known for its bigotry, tax-dodging owners, and its anti-locjkdopuwn and anti-NHS positions, I am entitled to, and will, say so. The Torygraph is clearly and unambiguously horribly biased. You may like their position, and that is your right, but I don't have to accept their crap, especially not that of a particularly extreme journalist, not a medical or scientific professional.

The fact you keep ranting about people "panicking" shows you really don't understand the issues or the uncertainties, so it is understandable you get reassurance from a "common sense" confirmation bias bubble. You should consider that the "common sense" of Torygraph readers and Tory backbenchers like the uber-moron Redwood have already unnecessarily cost many lives and much economic depression through their interference with a proper response. Sorting out the pandemic properly sooner would have saved many or both, so spare me the sanctimonious economic hypocrisy.

And nobody who supported the B-word can pretend they really give a toss about the economic future of this country.
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Re: the bold bit.
Making a statement like that does nothing but degrade your post. You have slated news papers and people who have contrary views and beliefs to yourself and then post remarks that put you in the same extreme bracket as those you castigate.

I'm not going to comment on that remark as it's too political but in my opinion it degrades your credibility and that's a shame.
 
3offTheTee said:
No problem re flying but more interested in COVID, particularly if we are positive when we take a test prior to the return trip an cannot return. Also the undecided whether to go but this is our decision.
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It’s very much an individual decision I would say. Unless you are unable to pay for accommodation for an extended stay, or have work to get back for, I say go for it and enjoy the break. I certainly would.
 
Billysboots said:
I think most have wanted to see figures such as those referred to in bold since the first vaccines were rolled out, regardless of variant. Some clear, concise statistics, not dressed up in any way, clearly detailing the impact vaccines are having on reducing serious illness and death.

Figures simply quoting hospital admissions, those in ICU, those on ventilators and deaths, without providing context around vaccine status, are now rather meaningless. Unless, of course, they are regurgitated simply to prolong the panic.

And, yes, I accept the very data I would like to see is probably published somewhere, but I really don’t want to have to go hunting for it, only to then have to try and interpret it all first.

Simple figures. Surely, nearly two years in, the simple man and woman in the street should have these available to them.
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This post says it clear and strong, and I cannot see any defensible argument against it.
And if there is no such argument against it, it begs the question, in danger of becoming a conspiracy question ( because of refusal to just do it), as to why the figures are not being released.
My theory is that it is feared that people will see that anti vaxxers are way out of line, and that continued restrictions may be seen to be because of their continued anti vaxxing
Whatever, the figures should be out there. You should not have a populace beginning to believe that truth is being kept from them in order to justify policy.
 
3offTheTee said:
Bit of a dilemma.. Heart and head scenario. Flight booked to Fuerterventura with Ryanair on 8/1/22. They have cancelled ALL other flights to FUE for around 6 weeks, not returning with them. the plane is around 25% full and we have been to Spain earlier this year and know about the form filling plus additional requirements now.

2 week trip and returning from Lanzarote. No “spring chickens” Captain Ron but fully jabbed. Will probably wait for another 10 days to decide but thoughts would be appreciated.
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My cousin is currently in Gran Canaria, different island but similar set up. He has been there about 10 days, got another 3 weeks to go. He has been very wary back in the UK but he said he feels very safe out there. It's outdoor living, where transmission is at its lowest, masks where required etc. Based on his experience I'd say go, enjoy yourself.

Please don't shout at me if Spain and the islands go on the red list when you are away though ?
 
3offTheTee said:
Bit of a dilemma.. Heart and head scenario. Flight booked to Fuerterventura with Ryanair on 8/1/22. They have cancelled ALL other flights to FUE for around 6 weeks, not returning with them. the plane is around 25% full and we have been to Spain earlier this year and know about the form filling plus additional requirements now.


2 week trip and returning from Lanzarote. No “spring chickens” Captain Ron but fully jabbed. Will probably wait for another 10 days to decide but thoughts would be appreciated.
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Go and have a good holiday. Don’t put it off because you might get COVID! Go out and live life.
 
backwoodsman said:
Methinks this thread should either go back to its original purpose - how has coronavirus affected me - or be closed. The constant bickering is tiresome and the two sides are clearly never going to agree. (And yes, I know I dont have to read it, but I do...)
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Come on, it has clearly got to a highly relevant stage, I.e the question about the unpublished stats. If we close a thread every time contributors are not in agreement, it will be flat as a pancake and invite an elephant somewhere he shouldn't go?
 
On duty at the vaccine centre last night. It was a walk in session from 1730 - 2330 hrs for 1,2,3 & booster jabs. Bit of a shame as only around 100 people turned up. One guy came in then changed his mind for his booster as he didn’t want to feel “poorly” over Christmas, me and one of the Royal Marine jabbers took the mickey so he turned around and had it.
The NHS duty supervisor told us we really shouldn’t talk to people like that, we just pointed to the result.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
How old are you? ? 70 is not very old. Why don't you google how many people are aged 70 and over in UK?
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Turn 45 in 2 weeksish. Old enough and on the slope to the end now. Love life like I’m 21 though. Kick the backside out of it. If I make 70 I will be astounded and a touch disappointed.
Too many people living too long nowadays.
 
Captainron said:
Turn 45 in 2 weeksish. Old enough and on the slope to the end now. Love life like I’m 21 though. Kick the backside out of it. If I make 70 I will be astounded and a touch disappointed.
Too many people living too long nowadays.
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Got to be honest, I'm much the same, dribbling in my soup at 85 and shuffling along the pavement getting in everyone's way. Live fast, die young as Lemmy said
 
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SocketRocket said:
Re: the bold bit.
Making a statement like that does nothing but degrade your post. You have slated news papers and people who have contrary views and beliefs to yourself and then post remarks that put you in the same extreme bracket as those you castigate.

I'm not going to comment on that remark as it's too political but in my opinion it degrades your credibility and that's a shame.
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Yet your entire post was 'comment on that remark'! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

FWIW, I'm inclined to agree with you.o_O It was so unrelated to the rest of the post/conversation that it took me a while to make the connection! In mitigation, the Torygraph has, imo, moved from a 'somewhat/noticeably right of centre paper featuring measured' towards a 'mere mouthpiece for the Conservatives'! I'm more and more convinced that the only unbiased news organisation (though perhaps - and reasonably imo - not individual reporters) is the BBC. The fact that it's so often criticised by either/both 'wings', actually reinforces that view!
 
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Old Skier said:
On duty at the vaccine centre last night. It was a walk in session from 1730 - 2330 hrs for 1,2,3 & booster jabs. Bit of a shame as only around 100 people turned up. One guy came in then changed his mind for his booster as he didn’t want to feel “poorly” over Christmas, me and one of the Royal Marine jabbers took the mickey so he turned around and had it.
The NHS duty supervisor told us we really shouldn’t talk to people like that, we just pointed to the result.
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Hid did a Vac shift at local hospital for staff and patients Jabs and did just 12 in a 8 hr shift ?
 
Captainron said:
Turn 45 in 2 weeksish. Old enough and on the slope to the end now. Love life like I’m 21 though. Kick the backside out of it. If I make 70 I will be astounded and a touch disappointed.
Too many people living too long nowadays.
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You'll change your mind re 70 when you're 69!.
I still have "goals" in my life, like reducing the golf score, looking forward to catching lovely roach or tench. Enjoying my classical music where I witness one of the pinnacles of human endeavour.
I don't want it to end, so why should you?
 
my wif'e eldest son went to America a week ago and his wife tested positive for covid. She had to pay $300 for a PCR test and he has to do the same! Expensive. The covid insurance was another £250
 
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