Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

clubchamp98 said:
90’000 people in Spain have been fined.
So a lockdown isn’t working.
I would say in the UK there would be more , if we had the police to enforce it
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We don't though . we have about half as many per person and our population is not quite as concentrated in particular areas as Spain (I think)
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
And if many continue to refuse (and on what basis does the government and experts make that assessment?) but we wait 2 or 3 days to have that 'confirmed by the data' (what data?) before we are put into lockdown, then we lose the suppression on the acceleration in growth of numbers infected that that 2-3 days would have. The acceleration is happening NOW - 2-3 days continued acceleration at current level puts the growth on a very different trajectory than it will be on if we apply the acceleration suppression measures now.

To what benefit the delay? Why wait? Delay will simply cost lives. We are almost 100% certainly going to have to go into lockdown - let's just get on with it.
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I agree we should go into immediate lockdown . I am not disagreeing about that . I am disagreeing about the bit I put in bold, i.e.
But I do not think the manner he and Hancock are currently speaking is actually conveying the dire gravity of our situation.

But, yes , we now have to go into lockdown (because Boris's clear advice was ignored)
The fault is the public's
 
This chart tells me that the individual in the family who triggers the 14 day isolation period for the rest of the family (mum) can come out of self-isolation after 7 days - and can go back to life as normal.

Likewise Child 1. Contracts C-19 from mum and shows symptoms 2 days in - Child 1 can come out of isolation after Day 9. So again within the 14 days.

The problem is that that is not how I have heard the isolation described - where there is a very distinct differentiation between me going into self-isolation lasting 7 days if I was by myself and 14days if I was part of a family. The chart below does not make any such differentiation for Mum. She is out of isolation after 7days which is same is if she was NOT in a family.

The NHS guidelines @Hobbit links to tells me...

if you have symptoms of coronavirus, you'll need to stay at home for 7 days
if you live with someone who has symptoms, you'll need to stay at home for 14 days from the day the first person in the home started having symptoms.

This matches the chart but is not how I have understood what experts have said. And it is that which confused me.

bobmac said:
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robinthehood said:
Yeah I've heard this a few times but no actual news reports.
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Haven't seen anything directly confirming it but it was mentioned by the Chief Exec in his daily Covid email and we were advised to take the pass off and put safely away out of site before leaving the site. Better safe than sorry I guess and given some of the things we've seen I wouldn't bet against it.
 
pauldj42 said:
Don’t care whether you agree or not, we are all entitled to our own opinion.

Brought up with pets, owned pets etc, one of the worst things I’ve been through was holding my dog when she had to be put down, but IMO, no pet should be put before a human.(y)

We’ve seen examples near the coast were dog owners have lost their lives trying to save their pet, absolutely stupid and a waste of a life.
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Too simplistic. Both are sentient beings. For me, depends who or what the human is.
 
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