GMAC88
Head Pro
Been struggling to compress the ball since playing again this year, does anyone have any drills that I could try to help with this problem?
Compressing the ball...
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Alex1975
Tour Winner
Any idea what your angle of attack it?
GMAC88
Head Pro
I had a lesson last week, trying to sort my swing path/release, however, on quite a few occassions the track man showed a positive number in the attack angle!
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Forgive me, but I don't think you really mean what you asked. Compression happens when you hit the ball, the better and harder you hit it, the more the ball will compress. You don't need a negative angle of attack to compress the ball...
Why do you think you aren't compressing it?
Why do you think you aren't compressing it?
GMAC88
Head Pro
Im not striking down on the ball, and therefore the ball is spinning too much, and ball flight is ridiculously high. I was hitting a 6 iron 140 into the wind because the ball was just ballooning.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Try trying to take bigger divots.
It's nothing to do with the divot itself, nor any squeezing of the ball into the ground - that doesn't happen because the ball is long gone at a different angle by the time the club hits the turf.
But the feeling that you have to drive the club-head through the turf is likely to actual strike more oomph!
Btw. If you are producing a + AoA for irons, then you are doing one of - hitting it off a tee; thinning it; hitting the ground first!
If you are NOT producing a + AoA for Driver, you are wasting energy - sizeably -ve AoA will certainly produce more spin/ballooning from Driver. Tee it higher is generally the solution there.
It's nothing to do with the divot itself, nor any squeezing of the ball into the ground - that doesn't happen because the ball is long gone at a different angle by the time the club hits the turf.
But the feeling that you have to drive the club-head through the turf is likely to actual strike more oomph!
Btw. If you are producing a + AoA for irons, then you are doing one of - hitting it off a tee; thinning it; hitting the ground first!
If you are NOT producing a + AoA for Driver, you are wasting energy - sizeably -ve AoA will certainly produce more spin/ballooning from Driver. Tee it higher is generally the solution there.
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HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
You might want to read this...
http://www.andrewricegolf.com/andrew-rice-golf/2013/02/compress-the-golf-ball
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
nope - ball spin increases if you strike down ie increase angle of attack for any constant of loft and clubhead speed.
GMAC88
Head Pro
None of the above, too 'handsy' at impact, not keeping my hands ahead of the ball. A thin would surely come off low and fast? A heavy would be noticed by a pro watching me? He recommended that I try to hit down on the ball a little more.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Well, presuming you know what AoA actually means, can you explain how you can get anything more than a marginally positive one without hitting the ground first?
And what the pro is recommending will almost certainly (well, hopefully) work. By trying to hit down more, you are more likely to get your hands ahead of the club-face and avoid the 'flip'. It's this de-lofting of the clubcace that achieves the better 'compression'. at the moment, you are doing the opposite!
Similar concept with my 'bigger divots' suggestion. Forces more foreward and solid wrists/forearms to drive through the turf - but that's an 'in the head' solution.
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GMAC88
Head Pro
As I said previously, I was getting reading of 5 up on the ANGLE OF ATTACK, but nothing better than zero. The ball was a little low on the club face, but not low enough to be a rocket thin.
I was swaying a little to start off, which would have affected angles etc, I was only looking for some drills, not an exam about the accronyms assosciated with a Track Man!
I was swaying a little to start off, which would have affected angles etc, I was only looking for some drills, not an exam about the accronyms assosciated with a Track Man!
One Planer
Global Moderator
Some cracking info on keeping your hands ahead of the ball here:
http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?66359-Hands-in-front-of-ball-(impact)-drill-Help!
Foxholer
Blackballed
Ask your Pro then. He's certainly in the best position to select which drill will be best FOR YOU.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Am I the only one who finds it odd that your pro would tell you to try hitting down a bit more and then not tell you how to do it
Alex1975
Tour Winner
7.5* driver.... your way up on the ball as you said. I am not going to advise you as your a better golfer than me but I would think you need to hold onto your angles longer...
I am usually 6* down on my 6 iron and 1* up or down on my driver.... Not even in the same ball park as you. I am more about releasing the angles than holding them.
I am usually 6* down on my 6 iron and 1* up or down on my driver.... Not even in the same ball park as you. I am more about releasing the angles than holding them.
Albanach
Head Pro
For the swaying the ball under the outside of the right foot drill should be good. For the impact drill maybe try and start to swing from the impact position to get the feeling. There's a couple of videos on the golf channel site for the above with Karen Stupples and Anika Sorenstam resp. I'm struggling with angle if attack at the minute and it's mainly due to staying on my RHS through impact so I found this helpful:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9AGqVJApKI
Caveat - being off 3 you're a better golfer than me so just my 2 cents.
GMAC88
Head Pro
Theres not really any need for sarcy remarks is there? I asked a simple question, detailed the faults. Ive tried the two he gave me, snapped an alignment cane and the others are better on grass, but Im practising at the range.
One Planer
Global Moderator
There is a drill that can be done on range mats that involves placing a ball about 8" behind your target ball.
The idea is to hit your target ball and not the one behind.
Foxholer
Blackballed
That's a bit close imo. Promotes too steep an attack. Starting at 18" and moving it in to just over a foot works pretty well - at least for me.
One Planer
Global Moderator
Ya, know I mean to put 18" and missed the '1'
I should probably re-read my posts before hitting 'post' :rofl:
