Clarification re Bunker penalties Please

[Skypilot]

I saw this guide (See below) to the new rules and option 4 has been discussed but seems to contradict option 1 in some circumstances.

Option 1 seems to suggest I could replay the ball from its original position and only drop 1 shot.
This would be a great help to me (if true) as delicate shots over greenside bunkers are my weakness.




A player now has 4 options dropping from/in a bunker.

1. Drop and play the ball from the position of your last shot (1 penalty stroke)
2. Take a drop in the bunker on the same line as your ball/pin (1 penalty stroke)
3. Take a drop in the bunker withing 2 club lengths, no closer to the hole (1 penalty shot)
4. Drop out of the bunker, keeping the same line as your ball/pin as far back as you like (2 penalty shots)

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I saw this guide (See below) to the new rules and option 4 has been discussed but seems to contradict option 1 in some circumstances.

Option 1 seems to suggest I could replay the ball from its original position and only drop 1 shot.
This would be a great help to me (if true) as delicate shots over greenside bunkers are my weakness.




A player now has 4 options dropping from/in a bunker.

1. Drop and play the ball from the position of your last shot (1 penalty stroke)
2. Take a drop in the bunker on the same line as your ball/pin (1 penalty stroke)
3. Take a drop in the bunker withing 2 club lengths, no closer to the hole (1 penalty shot)
4. Drop out of the bunker, keeping the same line as your ball/pin as far back as you like (2 penalty shots)

Here’s the diagram:
Option 1 is Stroke and Distance, it could help for the fluffed delicate shots, but you could also go in the bunker from a tee shot or a long 2nd into the green. Choose your option wisely.

 

[duncan mackie]

1 is effectively stroke and distance, 4 is stroke and stroke

They are different options. 1 is always available anywhere on the course. 4 is specific to balls in the bunker area of the course.

 

[Skypilot]

Here’s the diagram:
Option 1 is Stroke and Distance,

Thanks Paul.
The distance element wouldn't matter to me though if I'd gone into the bunker from a NITBY type shot.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Thanks Paul.
The distance element wouldn't matter to me though if I'd gone into the bunker from a NITBY type shot.

Agreed, it’s just to remember what option you are calling so as to ensure whoever your playing alongside understands, in theory 1 and 4 could be played from the exact same spot.

 

[louise_a]

in your scenario you would take option 1 and replay from the same place for a 1 shot penalty, you could also take option 4 and go back on the line for a2 shot penalty if you so desired.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

1 is effectively stroke and distance, 4 is stroke and stroke

They are different options. 1 is always available anywhere on the course. 4 is specific to balls in the bunker area of the course.

Just thinking out loud and my previous post:
Scenario,
Your shot lands just short of a bunker and your next shot you fluff into the bunker.
Why take the 2 Stroke penalty when you can call stroke and distance?
Could lead to possible confusion if players don’t explain what penalty they are taking.

 

[rulefan]

I saw this guide (See below) to the new rules and option 4 has been discussed but seems to contradict option 1 in some circumstances.

Option 1 seems to suggest I could replay the ball from its original position and only drop 1 shot.
This would be a great help to me (if true) as delicate shots over greenside bunkers are my weakness.

A player now has 4 options dropping from/in a bunker.

1. Drop and play the ball from the position of your last shot (1 penalty stroke)
2. Take a drop in the bunker on the same line as your ball/pin (1 penalty stroke)
3. Take a drop in the bunker withing 2 club lengths, no closer to the hole (1 penalty shot)
4. Drop out of the bunker, keeping the same line as your ball/pin as far back as you like (2 penalty shots)

Option 1 has always been available. Previously option 4 was not.
The above 4 options apply to penalty relief for an unplayable ball. It is not quite the same for free relief from a puddle or other abnormal ground condition in a bunker

 

[duncan mackie]

Just thinking out loud and my previous post:
Scenario,
Your shot lands just short of a bunker and your next shot you fluff into the bunker.
Why take the 2 Stroke penalty when you can call stroke and distance?
Could lead to possible confusion if players don’t explain what penalty they are taking.

As always, clarity is everything.

On the thinking out loud side, I fail to see how taking a stroke penalty to drop the ball on the wrong side of the bunker (again) is going to be a great help to skypilot....he just ends up facing the same problem but with 3 extra strokes on his card, if he's already plopped it into the bunker from close quarters once. 🤔

 

[Deleted member 16999]

As always, clarity is everything.

On the thinking out loud side, I fail to see how taking a stroke penalty to drop the ball on the wrong side of the bunker (again) is going to be a great help to skypilot....he just ends up facing the same problem but with 3 extra strokes on his card, if he's already plopped it into the bunker from close quarters once. 🤔

Thanks for that, wasn’t meaning in Skypilot scenario, just an everyday/anyday event.
No problems, cheers

 

[Homer]

Thanks for that, wasn’t meaning in Skypilot scenario, just an everyday/anyday event.
No problems, cheers

Do you need it written down?

 

[Twire]

Do you need it written down?

This isn't adding to the thread and could be considered trolling!

 

[Homer]

This isn't adding to the thread and could be considered trolling!

The man appeared in another thread to not understand if it wasn’t written down. I was only asking to make sure!!!