Chippers

Foxholer said:
A fair amount of twaddle in there!

That'll apply to several Major winners - including Todd Hamilton, Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Justin Rose (almost the final shot!) and a host of other guys have used 'different' clubs to 'chip' with great success! Not always with hybrids either - Drivers and FWs work well/better in certain situations.

The 'rules' for chipping are the same as for any other shot - decide what the best shot for the circumstances are; select the club that will best provide that shot; make the shot!

The SW has only been around sine Gene Sarazon invented it; the LW even less time - a Dave Pelz invention! So certainly not 'always thus'!
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Twaddle? Well you more than anyone on the forum knows that when you see it so I bow to your superior judgement.


Are you hinting then that amateur golfers of all handicap ranges should ape this and chip with 3 woods and hybrids? That the 3 wood chip should be practiced and extensively utilised when the circumstances dictate?
 
Personally I took Snelly's reply to be a bit toungue in cheek and designed to elicit a response which it obviously has.

Maybe the problem for some amatures chipping is to be found in some of the replies though.

Pretty much any club in the bag can be used for chipping. Someone standing over a chip and they are thinking:

Pre Chip thoughts said:
"Do I take a PW and fly it over this bit of rough here or a 7i bump and run through it. I'm a bit close to the second cut maybe I should use the hybrid. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!
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I personally am not a great chipper but I have a go to club that I tend to use and find it can work in most situations, I am happy to change this up from time to time but when iffy I go back to what I am comfortable with. To expand this I need to practice more but simply don't have the time, facilities or inclination at present so I'll stick with it.

For others that are having a lot of problems with chipping then surely the mind set can be helped by a dedicated club. Same way when in a bunker they'll lift out the SW, from the tee they'll hit a driver and on the green they pull out a putter. We all know that these shots can be played with different clubs. Be it a Seve style open faced 3i or a more sensible open 9i, a 3w, hyrbid or iron from the tee or a bladed wedge or even a gripped down driver on the greens (seen it done when a FC lost his putter with surprising success). But surely it make sense for a amature to go with what they are comfortable with.

The amature game is primarily about enjoyment is it not? If a player feels more comfortable with a dedicated club so be it.

Does this reflect on thier ability? Of course it does, it shows they are an amature with limited skills and prefer to stay in thier comfort zone.

Will they progess by limiting themselves? Unlikely but they can keep steady and enjoy it.

Does it affect anyone else? Nope not one iota.
 
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I think the main aim of chippers is that it removes a good bit of the skill requirement normally associated with regular wedges etc and also makes the operator (I reserve the right to refrain from using the word player) less likely to find that pesky mexican "el hosel".
It is a quick fix club that masks issues, nothing more.
 
brendy said:
I think the main aim of chippers is that it removes a good bit of the skill requirement normally associated with regular wedges etc and also makes the operator less likely to find that pesky mexican "el hosel".
It is a quick fix club that masks issues, nothing more.
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Like offset irons/drivers? Or clubs with massive soles?
 
It's a golf club. You are allowed 14 of them in your bag. If you want one, put it in there.

This really is a non story. Golfer in "I have a legal club in my bag" controversy....

Some people really do succumb to peer pressure on here... Be your own person! You don't need to know whether people on here like it or approve of your use of a club. If YOU like it, make that call yourself and just buy one or put it in your bag. It really IS that simple.
 
bobmac said:
Unless you already have 14 clubs in the bag.
You then have to decide which one to take out to make room for your 2nd 8 iron.
And if you already have 4 or 5 wedges, your options are certainly limited
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This made me spill my G &T!!!!
On thread mainly against golfers using a chipper,a suggestion to drop one of 4 or 5 wedges.
What ever happened to the skill to open or close any of the short irons.
Dewsweeper
 
Snelly said:
Are you hinting then that amateur golfers of all handicap ranges should ape this and chip with 3 woods and hybrids? That the 3 wood chip should be practiced and extensively utilised when the circumstances dictate?
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No! But if it's appropriate and more likely to result in an easier (or no) next shot, then you'd be daft not to consider it!

Do you never putt from off the Green? Same logic - pick the shot that's likely to make the next one easiest (or not required!)!

I can certainly see why a Chipper might be rejected though - as it costs a club that may be of more use.

palindromicbob said:
Personally I took Snelly's reply to be a bit toungue in cheek and designed to elicit a response which it obviously has.
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Snelly's posts almost always seem to have a fishing element to them! Along with the 'I'm right and anyone who disagrees is entitled to their opinion, but they are wrong!' :rofl:
 
Foxholer said:
No! But if it's appropriate and more likely to result in an easier (or no) next shot, then you'd be daft not to consider it!

Do you never putt from off the Green? Same logic - pick the shot that's likely to make the next one easiest (or not required!)!

I can certainly see why a Chipper might be rejected though - as it costs a club that may be of more use.



Snelly's posts almost always seem to have a fishing element to them! Along with the 'I'm right and anyone who disagrees is entitled to their opinion, but they are wrong!' :rofl:
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Almost always?? I must be slipping.
 
Foxholer said:
No! But if it's appropriate and more likely to result in an easier (or no) next shot, then you'd be daft not to consider it!

Do you never putt from off the Green? Same logic - pick the shot that's likely to make the next one easiest (or not required!)!

I can certainly see why a Chipper might be rejected though - as it costs a club that may be of more use.



Snelly's posts almost always seem to have a fishing element to them! Along with the 'I'm right and anyone who disagrees is entitled to their opinion, but they are wrong!' :rofl:
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Have I just stepped into a parallel universe where there is no concept of irony:p

At the risk of sounding like a poor man's snelly, chippers are wrong, anyone that uses them is wrong. There is a reason you can only buy them in sports direct.....because they aren't proper golf equipment !!
 
bobmac said:
But in golf, you would have to take a club out of the bag to make room for the chipper, probably a club that could be used for chipping :)
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One of the clubs I learnt with was a cut-down hickory shafted niblick - I called it my 'chipper' - it was great for chipping but no good for anything else. I used it loads as the greens at the muni were so hard you couldn't get the ball to stop very easily so were always chipping back on.

I used to have a negative thing about clubs fashioned for specific shots as they felt like 'cheating' as they seemed to make that aspect of the game 'easier'. But i have moved on and so be it. Indeed if a player wants to fill his bag with 14 'non-standard' but legal clubs all with specific roles fitted to his game - then again - so be it.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
One of the clubs I learnt with was a cut-down hickory shafted niblick - I called it my 'chipper' - it was great for chipping but no good for anything else. I used it loads as the greens at the muni were so hard you couldn't get the ball to stop very easily so were always chipping back on.

I used to have a negative thing about clubs fashioned for specific shots as they felt like 'cheating' as they seemed to make that aspect of the game 'easier'. But i have moved on and so be it. Indeed if a player wants to fill his bag with 14 'non-standard' but legal clubs all with specific roles fitted to his game - then again - so be it.
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Know what you mean, we must be there already

Every putter head that not a thin blade
Hybrids
Fairways
GI cavity backs
Graphite shafts for irons
bulbous mini drivers
etc etc

Even chippers are not all the same with some being putter style and others like the cleveland that are basically wedges with a wide sole
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Not at all - as I said - I 'used' to feel this way. Today - if it's OK with the R&A then I'm not bothered what someone uses. I'll worry about my game not someone else's
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That was why I asked "did" you rather than "do" you feel that way. Wasn't having a go I was genuinely interested in what you used to think.
 
Golfers can use what they want for me, if it makes the game easier or more enjoyable for them then that's fine.
For all those that are slating Chippers though.. What's your stance on SGI irons? Because I'd say they look equally as hideous.

Also, how do you think your fellow Golfers would of reacted 20 years ago if you'd of walked onto the 1st tee with a 460cc driver?

Call yourself a golfer, With yer big Cheat stick :o
 
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The difference between SGI and chippers is that generally learners start with SGI irons and move onto better if they wish to progress. Chippers are more of a last resort for semi accomplished or time served lesser skilled golfers who cant get or have lost the knack of chipping.

Qwerty said:
Golfers can use what they want for me, if it makes the game easier or more enjoyable for them then that's fine.
For all those that are slating Chippers though.. What's your stance on SGI irons? Because I'd say they look equally as hideous.

Also, how do you think your fellow Golfers would of reacted 20 years ago if you'd of walked onto the 1st tee with a 460cc driver?

Call yourself a golfer, With yer big Cheat stick :o
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