Charges against Lance Armstrong?

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So the US Doping Authorities are finally taking the plunge and throwing a bunch of charges at Lance Armstrong and various members of the US Postal/Radioshack team.

Letter leaked to Walll Street Journal...

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/armstrongcharging0613.pdf

This goes way further than innuendo and they are now accusing him outright of doping, trafficking, concealment, conspiracy etc.


The letter implies there are plenty of ex team-maters ready to sing like canaries, and not just the discredited Floyd Landis this time.
 
They have the same evidence the US government had, and they couldn't make it stick.

I for one, hope Armstrong is clean. Cycling really doesn't need this.
 
The material evidence seems the same, but it sounds like they've cut deals with a few witnesses this time, which might be why they have taken the plunge.

Whatever happens, it is going to damage the sport. If he's found guilty, it destroys the credibility of the sport and its "greatest" champion, and if he'scleared, the whispering campaign and conspiracy theorists will cry cover up.
 
He says he's passed over 500 drug tests in his career?

Surely he couldn't have passed 500 without them finding something?

If he has they should employ the guys who supplied his drugs to do the tests.

Perhaps they should just give up and say dope away, at least it would be a "level" playing field.
 
murphthemog said:
They have the same evidence the US government had, and they couldn't make it stick.

I for one, hope Armstrong is clean. Cycling really doesn't need this.
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Me too. He's my sporting hero bar none and would be gutted to find out any truth in the constant rumours about him. Have spent years defending him to friends and colleagues who believe said rumours.

I believe he's clean 100%. Most tested athlete in history and no positive tests...that's not coincidence but innocence if you ask me.
 
AmandaJR said:
Me too. He's my sporting hero bar none and would be gutted to find out any truth in the constant rumours about him. Have spent years defending him to friends and colleagues who believe said rumours.

I believe he's clean 100%. Most tested athlete in history and no positive tests...that's not coincidence but innocence if you ask me.
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Another +1 for me, will be very sad if it turns out otherwise.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Another +1 for me, will be very sad if it turns out otherwise.
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I really hope he's innocent. Lance is one of those people who is bigger than Sport. He's a hero to millions.

Is it just me who sees some real problems with "buying" testimony from athletes who have been proven guilty. "Come here Mr Cyclist, if you tell some tales for us, we'll give you immunity.". Can't see any problems with that scenario, can you?
 
Its a witch hunt,somebody has seriously got a grudge against lance.
Hes a hero in America,and imo should stay that way.
Ive read all his books,and he trained like a mad man.
Getting woke up early in the mornings for testing at random.
He should be left alone to get on with his life,and aloud
to continue raising millions of pounds for his charities.
A great sportsman,and now a great infuence on many peoples lives.
 
bluewolf said:
Is it just me who sees some real problems with "buying" testimony from athletes who have been proven guilty. "Come here Mr Cyclist, if you tell some tales for us, we'll give you immunity.". Can't see any problems with that scenario, can you?
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This is how the American legal system works (or doesn't?).
 
I came on this thread thinking that people would be jumping on the band wagon and sating that he was guilty.

I fully agree with a lot of comments on here , Lance Armstrong is a amazing athlete , he has overcome huge obstacles in his life and is a inspiration to most people.
 
pokerjoke said:
Its a witch hunt,somebody has seriously got a grudge against lance.
Hes a hero in America,and imo should stay that way.
Ive read all his books,and he trained like a mad man.
Getting woke up early in the mornings for testing at random.
He should be left alone to get on with his life,and aloud
to continue raising millions of pounds for his charities.
A great sportsman,and now a great infuence on many peoples lives.
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Been out of cycling myself for a long time now, but once upon a time all the top riders were rumd to have been on EPO as it was called at the time. No saying anyone is guily or not but the sport has been tainted for some time. I know the french hated the fact the Lance won Le Tour so many times and if they couldn't get anything to stick a doubt anyone else will.

Shame really, he over came a lot to get back to the top, but always set alarm bells ringing when he came back twice the rider he was before cancer.

And for the record i'm not saying he's Guilty.
 
North Mimms said:
Lance Armstrong has denied ever using drugs..
However he has admitted pedalling...
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I'm as big a Lance fan as the next person and agree that it's the longest witch hunt in history. But the one thing that always worries me is Lance always seems to say 'I've never failed a test' rather than 'I've never used drugs'.
 
Read a book called "rough ride" great book of cycling and drug use. I think when lance was about the games was different, the rules were different and you have to accept the people he beat where all in the same boat as him.
 
Like Kennedy's assassination or the Moon landing, the conspiracy will never end until they find something!

He has taken every test, passed them all. Denied taking drugs at every stage.

Hero of mine, so I really hope that after all this the book is finally closed and cycling can celebrate a legend properly.
 
Not good headlines today :-(. Not sure what to make of it. It seems at the near final hurdle he decides he was tired of fighting and this coming from a man who fought the big C. Would have been good to see this USADA evidence - will it ever surface?

One of my heroes and I think he still is. I think.
 
Piece said:
Not good headlines today :-(. Not sure what to make of it. It seems at the near final hurdle he decides he was tired of fighting and this coming from a man who fought the big C. Would have been good to see this USADA evidence - will it ever surface?

One of my heroes and I think he still is. I think.
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I've never been keen on plea bargained evidence, and I gather the USADA is basing their case on a lot of it.
 
Whole thing smells like a witch-hunt to me. Am I correct in saying that Armstrong NEVER failed a drug test at any point in his cycling career? The USADA are coming across like the British tabloid press in this instance.
 
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