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Sorry must have missed the point you are making there ?
Celtic - lucky or not!
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Sorry must have missed the point you are making there ?
NWJocko
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I know in Phil world Liverpool = English football but it is wider, I didn't mention anything about Liverpool!
You missed my point though, which was relative to today. Pointing out how much the English league has changed with Sky and CL money.
Pretty sure Celtic and rangers have reached Uefa Cup finals in the 00s aswell, so we do not bad for a wee country even if it is unlikely to happen again in the near future. Disclaimer, that in no way means I think the SPL is anywhere close to the EPl before we go down that road again.....
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The english league has changed - as have most of the leagues in those times and money has been the root of it all - thankfully we havent hit the spanish model yet where clubs can negoitate their own deals and the split is still pretty evenish
Football is such a global sport now - countries are paying billions to watch the EPL - i dont know if its a good thing or a bad thing - i just hope the fans at home dont get priced out totally ( in some clubs they already are starting too )
Celtic and Rangers have done well in the UEFA - would have been great if they had won on those nights - might have been a great boost for the league.
Simple. At the same time as Barnes and Liverpool were supposedly the best side never to have played in Europe real pub sides made up of misfits and those with much less talent were capable of beaten them and would have been eligible for Europe for winning the FA cup. And as you keep saying, its only a debate
Even Fulham made a Euro final!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It wouldn't have been a boost for the league, would just have perpetuated the cycle of them having more money whilst the rest of the teams (mine included sadly) were rubbish. A split that is evident in the EPL, just not as concentrated with 4 teams in the CL.
Like the Liverpool team you mention, the Rangers team with Laudrup, Gazza etc was one of the best Scotland has seen but the rest of the league (less Celtic) were appalling.
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Blimey - its a one off final anything can happen in a final as have been witnessed throughout the whole footballing history
On the day Wimbledon got the result - it happens and will continue to happen.
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It was a good team and remember them playing against Leeds in the European Cup and beating them
Was it Aberdeen in 85 the last time a team outside Celtic and Rangers have won the title ?
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Yep.
Closest since then was Aberdeen again in 1990/91 (?) when we needed a draw at Ibrox on the last day to win the league and lost 2-0.
At the game as a kid and was gutted!!
That was maybe the start of their 9 in a row? Maybe a couple in.
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Think so - i remember in 83 i think it was being taken to Pittodrie and watching the Cup winners Cup semi or quarter final win over Bayern ? Atmosphere was amazing
And just proves the point as does Fulham getting to a Euro final, qualifying for Europe can happen to anyone. I actually think some of the sides in the old cup winners would have had kittens having to go to the old Plough Lane on a Wednesday night and try and get a result. The Barnes Liverpool side weren't the only ones!
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What point does it prove ?
Im not really sure what you reference is to the post i made about Liverpool team in the 80's ?
Yes any team can qualify for Europe if they win a cup - that hasnt changed.
Is the SPL a one horse race this season then. Is it me looking in from afar that would think that Celtic are perhaps at their weakest for some time and that as Legia proved home and away they are capable of being well beaten. Will it be a closer race or does Scotland already think it's a done deal and they'll win again?
NWJocko
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Done deal.
Hoping Aberdeen finish second and we'll likely be 25+ points back if we do.
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What are the expectations for Delia if its a done deal already ?
NWJocko
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No idea, have no interest in Celtic really.
I'd imagine they were, and still are now, hoping to get into the CL.
Winning league would be minimum requirement I'd expect and 1 cup, maybe both wouldn't be beyond expectations.
I could probably be head coach and Celtic would win the league as their squad/team is much better than anything else and, in the main, football is about players.
Even though they've now lost their keeper to Southampton?
NWJocko
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Yep. He's a good goalie no doubt but Celtic could take Fulhams 4th choice keeper and still win the league. They've turned a good profit on him though.
Over the course of a season their team and squad are miles ahead of anyone else.
I was surprised we got him after their lucky escape. Thiught he'd stay whilst a shot at cl footy.
Cguffed thiugh as he looks a talent and Boruc is getting on.
Couple of good seasons and he can replace mignolet for a tidy profit.
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Aberdeen were 8/1 to win +25 points. Decent value.
