Baroness Thatcher Dead

[HomerJSimpson]

I suggest many of those critiscising have forgotten the 70's with power cuts, mass unemployment, 3 day weeks and the country at the beck and call of the unions. Under Maggie we became a force on the global economy, had a military might, a leader not scared to exercise that might. I thought she was just what the country needed after the mess Callaghan, etc left us in and she was steadfast and resolute in the pursuit of her policies. Lets face it, she survived being blown up and was back working within hours. Can't knock her. History will show her time in power as a pivotal time in UK politics

On a slightly lighter note, I use to be Maggie's pay clerk for a time when she was PM. I made a "mistake" and got a hand written letter asking for me to correct the error signed by her. It got "lost" from her file when I left and may be making its way to an e-bay page near you soon

 

[Doon frae Troon]

How Crass..........BBC have a pre-recorded memorial programme on Maggie Thatcher narrated by Andrew Marr.

They must have made it at least 2 months ago.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I'm not blinkered enough not to realise that the unions had strangled the country from one side, however what Thatcher did from the other side was just as bad, if not worse. I do/did agree with the sell off of council houses (even though my parents did not take advantage) and possibly some of her other policies (though can't think of any).

I don't trust any of the politicians TBH, and dont follow any sides any more, although always left leaning.

However, to paint her as some sort of supergran, lovable, saviour of this country is a total whitewash. She smashed the unions and the country is a lot worse off for it nowadays, with hardly any manufacturing/production base anymore, and I see thatcher's hands all over that.

If both the unions and her acolytes weren't as entrenched in their ways, we would probably have a lot more factories now, she won the battle.

But did the country, sadly no.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

I suggest many of those critiscising have forgotten the 70's with power cuts, mass unemployment, 3 day weeks and the country at the beck and call of the unions. Under Maggie we became a force on the global economy, had a military might, a leader not scared to exercise that might. I thought she was just what the country needed after the mess Callaghan, etc left us in and she was steadfast and resolute in the pursuit of her policies. Lets face it, she survived being blown up and was back working within hours. Can't knock her. History will show her time in power as a pivotal time in UK politics

Hear hear!!!

 

[In_The_Rough]

She did smash the unions and probably went to far with it. However the union bully boys were their own worst enemy as the slightest little thing they did not like they downed tools and went on strike, Winter of discontent springs to mind. We cannot return to those days and if Milliband gets voted in the again the unions will start to hold the country to ransom

 

[bigslice]

I was in fact being sarcastic, yes it did help her win a second term but your suggestion as to why we went to war are to be honest ridiculous.

we may go to war again here to protect our british sOIL but the forgeign office had been trying for years to get rid of the falklands well before the war. and in my opinion she only put us to war was to bring calm and unity to the uk, but these are only my thoughts. I hope you can tell me why you think she put us to war.

 

[Liverbirdie]

She did smash the unions and probably went to far with it. However the union bully boys were their own worst enemy as the slightest little thing they did not like they downed tools and went on strike, Winter of discontent springs to mind. We cannot return to those days and if Milliband gets voted in the again the unions will start to hold the country to ransom

Totally agree, we can't return to them days. Did we return to them days when labour were in power last, no. That is just tory scaremongering again. Labour are nothing like the beast in the 70's, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.

Clause IV was removed years ago.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Totally agree, we can't return to them days. Did we return to them days when labour were in power last, no. That is just tory scaremongering again. Labour are nothing like the beast in the 70's, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.

Clause IV was removed years ago.

Agreed we did not return to those days under the last Labour Governments but Blair and Brown were not helped to power and backed by the unions unlike Ed Milliband. Had D.Milliband been given the leadership of the Labour party the next election would have been a total whitewash and myself as a Tory voter normally would have voted for him as I think he would have done a decent job. However Ed is a different case altogether and the MP's that he has in the top jobs are all far to left wing for me and along with his union backing quite frankly worries me

 

[stevek1969]

Never speak ill of the deceased, but i'm glad she's gone she used Scotland as testing ground for all her scheme's . Totally destroyed industry. Dundee used to have mass empolyment in factories and a ship yard, Fife had it coals mines all gone due to her and her Tory Party.

 

[DappaDonDave]

Ill be wearing black and white tomorrow!

A great leader with bigger balls than most of her male counterparts pre and post thatcher!

 

[Sweep]

Clause IV was removed years ago.

Clause IV was removed because of Mrs. Thatcher. I am old enough to remember the 3 day week. The winter of discontent, weak government at the mercy of unelected unions. If ever a leader came along at the right time it was Mrs. Thatcher. As Mr. Cameron said, she not only lead Britain, she saved Britain. God bless Mrs. Thatcher. RIP.

 

[Sweep]

She's the best leader of the nation that I have seen in my lifetime and I am sad to see her pass away. I also sincerely hope that her family can mourn in relative peace.

It is pretty low to make political points on the day that she died. People should show more restraint and respect.


RIP Mrs T.

Absolutely agree. I am stunned that the miners union leader in Durham was crass enough to say on the BBC that he would be celebrating tonight and that Sky showed Gerry Adams spouting political diatribe. Have they forgotten the IRA tried to murder her? Has our society lost all it's morals? Do we have no respect for the dead?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Clearly a flawed person...

Not that sure she was a flawed person at all. Determined and principled - absolutely. And pretty damned ruthless to do what she believed was right - even when she knew that she would be 'hated' by some and disliked by many for doing it. Flawed - no - well not in my eyes.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

How Crass..........BBC have a pre-recorded memorial programme on Maggie Thatcher narrated by Andrew Marr.

They must have made it at least 2 months ago.

I don't see that as particularly crass. 250 scots in George Square, Glasgow celebrating her passing - now THAT'S crass.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Absolutely agree. I am stunned that the miners union leader in Durham was crass enough to say on the BBC that he would be celebrating tonight and that Sky showed Gerry Adams spouting political diatribe. Have they forgotten the IRA tried to murder her? Has our society lost all it's morals? Do we have no respect for the dead?

I know the miners will not have Maggie in their favourite persons book and I can understand why but for their union leader to say on TV what you are saying he said is disgusting and is one of the reasons why I have no sympathy or support for unions. The majority of the union leaders are loudmouth bully boy yobs who like to do nothing better than stir up trouble. If he said what you say then he should not be allowed to spout his vile drivel on TV ever again.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Not that sure she was a flawed person at all. Determined and principled - absolutely. And pretty damned ruthless to do what she believed was right - even when she knew that she would be 'hated' by some and disliked by many for doing it. Flawed - no - well not in my eyes.

So everything she did was ok?

There may be some blind people on the left to good things she did, but my god, some absolutely myopic people on the right who thought she done no wrong.

 

[SocketRocket]

I know the miners will not have Maggie in their favourite persons book and I can understand why but for their union leader to say on TV what you are saying he said is disgusting and is one of the reasons why I have no sympathy or support for unions. The majority of the union leaders are loudmouth bully boy yobs who like to do nothing better than stir up trouble. If he said what you say then he should not be allowed to spout his vile drivel on TV ever again.

Probably on the BBC, they encourage that type of diatribe.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Probably on the BBC, they encourage that type of diatribe.

Yes they are not exactly neutral in their political leanings are they!!

 

[SocketRocket]

Her big political defeat was the Poll Tax. I could never understand the problem with it though, the principal that everyone earning in a household should pay towards local services seemed quite fair. I tend to remember most of the fuss was made by Trotsky type students from the Socialist Workers party (none of them actually worked though)

 

[Slime]

I have no doubt either - but at whose cost? The underpriviliged and the weak is my bet.

And whose gain, the multi-millionaires and the capitalist system. Remember - more options are better. Are they, especially when the old can no longer heat their houses. Some choice.

Eat or heat?

I know many old people, eighty years old or more, who can heat their houses/flats and they live as far north as Preston.
I think that was a rather sweeping generalisation.

" Originally Posted by Stuart_C http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?p=799749#post799749
Great news to start the week".


That is about as disgusting a comment that has ever appeared on this site. Moderators - you ban people for trivial items, censor them for putting **** in words and you allow something like this?

Totally agreeing with you Paul_Stewart, some people are just sick!

Slime.