larmen
Head Pro
Not so much luck with the dvla I assume?
I had a lovely conversation with someone in Swansea on Tuesday.
Anyone in Kingston upon Thames or know it well??
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I had a lovely conversation with someone in Swansea on Tuesday.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Eeek. Just got a Penalty Notice through the post for turning left out of Brook Street in Kingston and no memory of seeing a "no left turn sign!" Looking at the "evidence pic" they sent, I cant see one... when I look on Google Earth it is there and obvious!
I was following sat nav, so might have missed it... any local knowledge say for sure? There goes another £65
Checked it yesterday, the signs are all there.
larmen
Head Pro
Only solution:
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I've just looked at the spot on google earth. Presumably you should have gone straight on for 50 yards then all the way round the roundabout and back again. Ridiculous. How would any satnav give you that instruction? Can't see what that no left turn achieves considering the whole junction is traffic light controlled. You have been really unlucky, but you will just have to grin and bear it I suppose, because of the signage.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
It can get the same amount of traffic out of a junction much quicker than if it all turned left is one option. Another is it potentially discourages the use of the road as a rat run. But the correct answer in this instance is that allows a "walk with traffic" pedestrian phase, so pedestrians can cross the main carriageway at the same time as the traffic emerges, thus reducing the cycle time for the lights and allowing more priority to the A307 traffic.
Anyone turning left out of there drives through a pedestrian crossing at a time when pedestrians have been given a green signal (or in the case of a blind person, an audible or tactile signal) to cross...
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Point taken. But perhaps the sequencing of the lights could be adjusted to give pedestrians an all-clear time period.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
It could be, but that introduces a separate phase, so it will require a 3 second shut down, a period of all red before the pedestrian phase, the pedestrian phase itself which as an estimate will be at least 20 seconds, and a 2 second red/amber open up, so 30 seconds of no traffic movement every time there's a pedestrian movement. At peak times that will back up to & impact the roundabout more frequently. For the minimal amount of traffic exiting relative to the flow on the A307, the walk with traffic phase is much more beneficial to the overall flows, which will be modelled prior to the traffic signals being installed.
larmen
Head Pro
The whole Kingston one way system is a terrible thing to drive through. I am happily driving from Hampton through it towards Richmond, but on the way back I only picked Kingston once, usually drive through Richmond. Isn’t t the much better traffic wise, but less possibility to go wrong.
Waiting for a bus in Kingston is only 1 or 2 stops down from the depot for my bus, but estimated times can be wildly off.