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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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Lord Tyrion said:
I suspect Corbyn's view is as close to socialism as Labour have had in many years. His nationalisation plans are undoubtedly socialist.

Blair realised that socialism in its purest form would not get Labour elected and to make a difference you have to be in power. His party was a socialist leaning party but not socialist in the strict sense, imo. Did he ever claim to be socialist whilst in power? I would be surprised, unless it was at a Labour conference and he was playing to the audience.
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i think many Labour supporters saw that after years of Tory rule undoing Socialst policys, like council houses, nationalised idustries, they had no choice as they say if you can't beat them join them. many won't like it but i think we could do with a bit of socialism, esp the way Society has gone in the last few years
 
The day Labour jumped into bed with the Tories in 2014 was the end of labour in Scotland.

They could increase their vote tenfold if they only had the balls to back independence.
 
patricks148 said:
i think many Labour supporters saw that after years of Tory rule undoing Socialst policys, like council houses, nationalised idustries, they had no choice as they say if you can't beat them join them. many won't like it but i think we could do with a bit of socialism, esp the way Society has gone in the last few years
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Where has Society gone? last time I looked it was still there?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Not going well for the Tories today.:love:

On top of that Lady Doon got a cold call from them, seven minutes later after discussing lies, trust, health, Indyref and social services the Scottish Tory woman was reduced to a jibbering wreck.
My English lady finally tells her that she has a postal vote and that she voted for the SNP six days ago as did her two English daughters wo moved to Scotland 10 and 12 years ago. That is when she was cut off.:love:
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Mrs Hogie (she's from Chesterfield btw) told me yesterday that she would be sooo happy were Friday morning she was to see Corbyn and Sturgeon standing outside the door of Number Ten...she knows it is very unlikely to happen...

As much as she used to find the comments my SNP-voting brother (he being successful in his career and pretty wealthy doesn't stop him supporting the SNP it seems) used to make to her about the English occasionally irritating - she now gets where he is coming from - and she gets Sturgeon :)
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Mrs Hogie (she's from Chesterfield btw) told me yesterday that she would be sooo happy were Friday morning she was to see Corbyn and Sturgeon standing outside the door of Number Ten...she knows it is very unlikely to happen...

As much as she used to find the comments my SNP-voting brother (he being successful in his career and pretty wealthy doesn't stop him supporting the SNP it seems) used to make to her about the English occasionally irritating - she now gets where he is coming from - and she gets Sturgeon :)
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Id be booking a one way ticket out of the UK for Friday night if that were to happen.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Mrs Hogie (she's from Chesterfield btw) told me yesterday that she would be sooo happy were Friday morning she was to see Corbyn and Sturgeon standing outside the door of Number Ten...she knows it is very unlikely to happen...

As much as she used to find the comments my SNP-voting brother (he being successful in his career and pretty wealthy doesn't stop him supporting the SNP it seems) used to make to her about the English occasionally irritating - she now gets where he is coming from - and she gets Sturgeon :)
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Sturgeons not an MP so can only stay outside :rolleyes:
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
How depressing - and Labour have a problem...? :(

A New Poll Found 37% Of Conservative Voters Admit They Have A Negative View Of Muslims
More than 60% of Conservative voters said they agreed with the statement that Islam threatened the British way of life

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/conservative-islamophobia-labour-antisemitism-poll
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Its not compulsary for people to like anything, if they did a poll on how many Labour supporters had negative views of Christianity it would probably be higher. Its only a problem if people discriminate or react in hateful or illegal ways.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I suspect Corbyn's view is as close to socialism as Labour have had in many years. His nationalisation plans are undoubtedly socialist.

Blair realised that socialism in its purest form would not get Labour elected and to make a difference you have to be in power. His party was a socialist leaning party but not socialist in the strict sense, imo. Did he ever claim to be socialist whilst in power? I would be surprised, unless it was at a Labour conference and he was playing to the audience.
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At the time I remember the word was that Blair was more a centre ground Conservative than the Conservatives themselves
 
Wolf said:
Because you know me better than i know myself.... For me anything that gets Labour into no10 means a potentially financially crippling situation for my family..
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I don’t think it will be that extreme or overnight.. they have to get to the actual situation bottomed out and then cut their cloth to suit the situation
 
Wolf said:
Because you know me better than i know myself.... For me anything that gets Labour into no10 means a potentially financially crippling situation for my family..
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Nope, don't know you at all but I know you wouldn't be booking a one way ticket out of the UK on Friday night if the aforementioned happened.

Heard it all before.
 
harpo_72 said:
I don’t think it will be that extreme or overnight.. they have to get to the actual situation bottomed out and then cut their cloth to suit the situation
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My problem is that it will be effectively an overnight situation for my family. At the moment im in a fortunate position that i provide my services through contract to 3 large leisure chains, 2 of those chains have already advised me that if Labour are in No10 by Friday morning they will issue 4 weeks notice of termination of contracts.
 
Wolf said:
Id be booking a one way ticket out of the UK for Friday night if that were to happen.
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Nice to have that option, so easy with all those 27 lovely European countries to choose from with no entry VISAs etc required...................:whistle: but your party's leader is hellbent on denying that to you and everyone else because his career depends on it.:confused:

Looks like Eire could be your only option come end Jan 2020.(y)
 
maxfli65 said:
Nice to have that option, so easy with all those 27 lovely European countries to choose from with no entry VISAs etc required...................:whistle: but your party's leader is hellbent on denying that to you and everyone else because his career depends on it.:confused:

Looks like Eire could be your only option come end Jan 2020.(y)
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My parties leader isnt hell bent on that at all because im not a Tory supporter?

Though with Boris in charge at least I wouldn't lose my contracts.

Fortunately for me Eire always an option thanks to Mrs Wolf being Irish.
 
Wolf said:
My problem is that it will be effectively an overnight situation for my family. At the moment im in a fortunate position that i provide my services through contract to 3 large leisure chains, 2 of those chains have already advised me that if Labour are in No10 by Friday morning they will issue 4 weeks notice of termination of contracts.
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I am gonna suggest no they wouldn't... One thing I learnt from my working days is that business likes to have a little stamp of its feet making all kinds of threats to workforce/politicians... Then, come the cold light of day, realises there's still a profit to be had...
 
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