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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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pauldj42 said:
Unfortunately Bri, all I’m seeing from others is the Labour scare stories to avoid discussing the facts of the last 9 years.
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I've probably explained that to you more than once but I guess it doesn't seem to register. Austerity = Fixing Labours tanked economy.
 
SocketRocket said:
I did. He never used the term 'Red Man' only 'Bufoon' just balancing the terms.
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No I didn’t, that’s the headline Sky put on the link I copied.
As I say, you played the poster and not the post.
No need to apologise as it will be through gritted teeth.:censored:
 
good evidence from The New Statesman and Unison! Even the Guardian can recognise the facts!

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-income-tax-revenues-institute-fiscal-studies

Britain’s overall tax take – revenues as a share of annual national income – stood at 34.4%, its highest sustained level since it was on its way down from the high levels seen during the second world war.

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In research underlining the dual nature of Britain’s income tax structure, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said above-inflation increases in the personal allowance to £12,500 a year meant 42% of adults paid no income tax.

So, the tax paid by the richest has hgone up under the tory government and is near record levels - and more of the poorest pay no tax. Yet you still bang on with this same theory of tax breaks for the rich. The facts are the facts and no amount of spinning them in any socialist-leaning fashion will distort the truth and economic sense of tax policy. The squeezed middle-income (definitions vary on what that is so i am not debating if someone on 80k or 123k is rich - People earning 100k to 125k are paying 62% marginal tax and that is plain wrong and more than someone earning 5 million). Britain is overdue a tax break - and it will do the country good. Roll on when that happens. It looks unlikely to happen due to spending priorities and perceptions of tax breaks for the rich, but the middle and upper earners - not millionaires or any form of tax dodgers - have bourne the burden of getting our defecit down - but that also needs to change!
 
PNWokingham said:
that is a completely differnt point!
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I disagree, it’s been proved that giving the rich more money doesn’t mean it filters down.
What you’re missing out is the amount of people who have had austerity forced on them via benefit cuts, bedroom tax etc, the gap between the rich and poor has widened.
Over a 100,000 deaths linked to austerity? Increase foodbanks etc.
As for Labour creating this, it was world wide financial collapse, blaming it all on Labour is a myth perpetuated by the right.
 
i have to say i'm really looking forward to the debate on C4 on Thursday with the party leaders will discuss Climate Change... esp the looks on the faces of the peaople asking questions of Boris ... if he turns up of course... i'm sure "get Brexit Done " will be a great relief to many of them:LOL:
 
patricks148 said:
i have to say i'm really looking forward to the debate on C4 on Thursday with the party leaders will discuss Climate Change... esp the looks on the faces of the peaople asking questions of Boris ... if he turns up of course... i'm sure "get Brexit Done " will be a great relief to many of them:LOL:
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Just so long as we dont keep hearing "Scotland must decide it's own future" either 😣
 
pauldj42 said:
I disagree, it’s been proved that giving the rich more money doesn’t mean it filters down.
What you’re missing out is the amount of people who have had austerity forced on them via benefit cuts, bedroom tax etc, the gap between the rich and poor has widened.
Over a 100,000 deaths linked to austerity? Increase foodbanks etc.
As for Labour creating this, it was world wide financial collapse, blaming it all on Labour is a myth perpetuated by the right.
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I am not ignoring distortions and hardship but the burden for retsoring the finances has been bourne by the higher earners. I am not sure how you can solve the other problems but saying that it is the fault of the wealthiest is not the answer. I am all for closing tax breaks and fiddles used by some who have made it rich and would love to see the end of offshoring tax liabilities to low tax countries - but these issues are not the same as trying to portray the wealthier and especially upper-middle earners as not having paid more tax despite an increasingly heavy tax burden. There needs to be more wealth equality but that is even more stark if you look at tin-pot left dictator countries like Venezuela - raising wages and quality of life for everyone is the goal - but that has far more chance of happening under the current Tory option than Labour, which will end up ruining the show for everyone

- this is what Corbyn and McDonnel want - and the current reality of what the world's biggest oil-reserve country has become, where the ruling socialists have ruined the country and stole all the money.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155271860216939
 
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