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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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pauldj42 said:
Why is it desperation, there are other Countries with this aspiration and even in the link I posted last night there was a quote from a research institute saying how it could benefit industries etc.
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They're going to outspend the Tories on the NHS, the free WiFi joke. They know they're going to get annihilated in the GE and are trying cheap shot policies to buy votes. Nothing wrong with that it happens all the time, but free WiFi, really?
 
pauldj42 said:
Why is it desperation, there are other Countries with this aspiration and even in the link I posted last night there was a quote from a research institute saying how it could benefit industries etc.
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But why would anyone vote for something that even under the fixed term Parliament act would be still, at least, 2 general elections away?
 
chrisd said:
But why would anyone vote for something that even under the fixed term Parliament act would be still, at least, 2 general elections away?
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Sorry Chris, but aren’t a lot of the Brexit policies based outside of 5 years? Goes both ways mate, they all do it.
 
Beezerk said:
They're going to outspend the Tories on the NHS, the free WiFi joke. They know they're going to get annihilated in the GE and are trying cheap shot policies to buy votes. Nothing wrong with that it happens all the time, but free WiFi, really?
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Isn’t that what Australia is currently under going? Probably over initial budget, but some Countries see the benefits.
 
pauldj42 said:
Isn’t that what Australia is currently under going? Probably over initial budget, but some Countries see the benefits.
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Not sure mate, I do know there's hell on about the internet over there though. A new fibre thing got rolled out and it's supposed to be garbage. They don't have Sky or satellite TV down there iirc, TV is generally through the internet so it's a different set up.
 
pauldj42 said:
Sorry Chris, but aren’t a lot of the Brexit policies based outside of 5 years? Goes both ways mate, they all do it.
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The Brexit policies will last more than 5 years but will be implemented as soon as the trade deal is agreed which should be by the end of 2020 but new GE manifesto policies that will not be implemented for 10 years are not deliverable as the party putting them forward may not be in power by then and, of course, the cabinet would likely be wholly different anyway even if they were in power.
 
pauldj42 said:
So a cable is fitted (or whatever) and you don’t plug in, what if the house is sold in the future, they’re not saying everyone will use or need it, but will have the facility.
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So why spend £20-100 billion (depending on which figures you look at) to provide everyone with something that not everyone will use or needs? Why not target those areas that do actually need it or will use it? Are the benefits really that great to justify the cost? What can the average person get from super fast fibre broadband that they don't get from standard broadband?
 
chrisd said:
The Brexit policies will last more than 5 years but will be implemented as soon as the trade deal is agreed which should be by the end of 2020 but new GE manifesto policies that will not be implemented for 10 years are not deliverable as the party putting them forward may not be in power by then and, of course, the cabinet would likely be wholly different anyway even if they were in power.
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And by then there could be statues to Corbyn and McDonnell in Parliament Square across from the new Politburo HQ
 
chrisd said:
The Brexit policies will last more than 5 years but will be implemented as soon as the trade deal is agreed which should be by the end of 2020 but new GE manifesto policies that will not be implemented for 10 years are not deliverable as the party putting them forward may not be in power by then and, of course, the cabinet would likely be wholly different anyway even if they were in power.
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In the summer boris has already called for full broadband provision for every home by 2025, isn’t that outside his 5yr term? Every party looks to the future, look at the climate control agreements.
 
ColchesterFC said:
So why spend £20-100 billion (depending on which figures you look at) to provide everyone with something that not everyone will use or needs? Why not target those areas that do actually need it or will use it? Are the benefits really that great to justify the cost? What can the average person get from super fast fibre broadband that they don't get from standard broadband?
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Who knows what will be needed where and by whom in 10-20yrs, should we just stand still?
 
ger147 said:
Just you keep day dreaming about your town centre wifi and don't drink more than 2 glasses of Malbec before 12pm...
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Surely free metropolitan area and 'community' wifi would attract folks into town centres - where attraction to counter the internet and out-of-town is essential. I found it a great benefit when it travelling in Australia and New Zealand. So why can't we have it in the UK? Internet access is the lifeblood of commerce and social communication - so let's have it freely available for all - not all of us can afford it, not all of us have mobile carrier signals up to the mark everywhere - but we all spend money.
 
spongebob59 said:
Some guy was talking about this on the radio this morning, they started their roll out in 2008 and its till not finished.
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Australia is quite a big place...and some communities are rather remote...but it was fantastically useful when we were travelling out there and in NZ earlier this year.
 
pauldj42 said:
The russians are funding boris and nigel aren’t they?:unsure:;)
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Some might suggest that until we see the 'report' we might reasonably assume that they have been.

I thought Mark Francois was interesting (if that's at all possible with him) when questioned on this by Eddie Mair yesterday evening as, evasive as he was - he clearly felt that Grieve's insistence on getting the report released was political as it would damage the Tory Party. Really? What does he know that we have not yet been told?

Release the Report.
 
pauldj42 said:
Who knows what will be needed where and by whom in 10-20yrs, should we just stand still?
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No we shouldn't, but you're saying we should spend all this money based on guesswork of what might be needed in 10-20 years time. My question is, how is free fibre broadband (for everyone) going to "fire up the economy, give a massive boost to productivity and bring half a million people back into work" which is the claim. What are the benefits to the average person of this policy?
 
pauldj42 said:
The russians are funding boris and nigel aren’t they?:unsure:;)
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Some might suggest that until we see the 'report' we might reasonably assume that they have been.
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All donations to the Tory party are in the public domain so if you're really that interested then it's easy to find out. I think that the presenter on 5 live this morning said that 11 Russian oligarchs had donated to the Tories.
 
ColchesterFC said:
All donations to the Tory party are in the public domain so if you're really that interested then it's easy to find out. I think that the presenter on 5 live this morning said that 11 Russian oligarchs had donated to the Tories.
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Thankyou - didn't hear that. I remain interested in what's in 'the report'.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Surely free metropolitan area and 'community' wifi would attract folks into town centres - where attraction to counter the internet and out-of-town is essential. I found it a great benefit when it travelling in Australia and New Zealand. So why can't we have it in the UK? Internet access is the lifeblood of commerce and social communication - so let's have it freely available for all - not all of us can afford it, not all of us have mobile carrier signals up to the mark everywhere - but we all spend money.
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You can open another bottle of Malbec now, it's 12pm.
 
ColchesterFC said:
All donations to the Tory party are in the public domain so if you're really that interested then it's easy to find out. I think that the presenter on 5 live this morning said that 11 Russian oligarchs had donated to the Tories.
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I guess the Russians had to suffer the mass murders and poverty of 70 years of Soviet Marxism. Those now in London don't want it introduced here! :-)
 
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