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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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ColchesterFC said:
Why not? Is TV treated differently to the print media? The Mirror/Guardian and Telegraph/Mail show huge bias during an election.
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A good point I'd not thought about - be interesting to see what the Court makes, if anything, of the potential impact on freedom of the press.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Anyone know which dungeon the Tories have locked Rees- Mogg up in.:unsure:
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It's almost as if the tories have realised he is mostly an objectionable person with a huge sense of privilege, completely out of touch with society and who does not resonate with the vast majority of the population. So have hidden him away to basically keep his mouth shut as he's a walking vote loser.

But be reassured, if the tories win him and many of his fellow types will be back and running the show.

And before the bots start, yes you can say the same about Diane Abbot in that she's been kept away.
 
Old Skier said:
It appears that along with Russia we now have civil servants in the EU trying to influence our election. If it was one of ours he would be sacked immediately and lose his pension
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Do you honestly think that anyone voting based on their brexit preference, especially leavers, will say 'ooh, I was going to vote for a party that wants to leave but having listened to Tusk I am changing my mind'. All it mostly will do is harden Leavers opinions.

You can add Clinton, Trump etc to the list if you want, many are chiming in. But at least they are upfront in the way they are doing it, the hidden stuff is much more sinister to me.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Do you honestly think that anyone voting based on their brexit preference, especially leavers, will say 'ooh, I was going to vote for a party that wants to leave but having listened to Tusk I am changing my mind'. All it mostly will do is harden Leavers opinions.

You can add Clinton, Trump etc to the list if you want, many are chiming in. But at least they are upfront in the way they are doing it, the hidden stuff is much more sinister to me.
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True, but the difference this time it's a paid civil servant who until he retires has a duty of impartiality. He has broken that impartiality and should be sanctioned because of it.
 
SocketRocket said:
I think Australia has it but voting is mandatory.
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Aside - I was in Australia this year throughout the lead-up to the Australian general Election. The debate was toxic. It was not at all nice.
SocketRocket said:
Is it not possible for him to start some form of education that would lead to him having a better chance to improve his lot. Seems he is painted into a corner at the moment.
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He has a good degree in Journalism. He has had a couple of jobs that paid a bit more - but not a lot - and Sheffield is not exactly awash with well paid jobs. His work is UK-wide - it is not based in Sheffield where he lives. It is actually handy for him to live in the 'middle' of the UK - bizarrely (and I did not know this until I just looked) Google Maps gives distance Sheffield to Glasgow as 253 miles - and distance Sheffield to Exeter - 253 miles :)

The nature and the availability of work and what he is paid are simply a function of working in the gig economy (zero hours contracts) in the the industry (events and touring artists primarily) - that he is in.

He is always confident that, in time, he will be able to get bigger 'gigs' with bigger artists and acts - and when that happens he can make a good living. But his current situation is one that is driven by low pay in a zero hours contracts business. And it is a nightmare.

(Aside - music touring will be negatively impacted when we leave the EU due to changes in how easily or not bands and artists can move between the countries of the EU and the UK - and also how artists and bands move and sell their merch. But that is just a moan I get from him - as it is a big worry in the music touring sector).
 
Hacker Khan said:
It's almost as if the tories have realised he is mostly an objectionable person with a huge sense of privilege, completely out of touch with society and who does not resonate with the vast majority of the population. So have hidden him away to basically keep his mouth shut as he's a walking vote loser.

But be reassured, if the tories win him and many of his fellow types will be back and running the show.

And before the bots start, yes you can say the same about Diane Abbot in that she's been kept away.
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It's like work ... you can't sack them they are embedded but you give them a window seat and keep them on the periphery ... both should be thanked for their service and then told their is a flight to somewhere else .... Like the Australian jungle with two Geordies waiting to greet them :cool:
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Aside - I was in Australia this year throughout the lead-up to the Australian general Election. The debate was toxic. It was not at all nice.


He has a good degree in Journalism. He has had a couple of jobs that paid a bit more - but not a lot - and Sheffield is not exactly awash with well paid jobs. His work is UK-wide - it is not based in Sheffield where he lives. It is actually handy for him to live in the 'middle' of the UK - bizarrely (and I did not know this until I just looked) Google Maps gives distance Sheffield to Glasgow as 253 miles - and distance Sheffield to Exeter - 253 miles :)

The nature and the availability of work and what he is paid are simply a function of working in the gig economy (zero hours contracts) in the the industry (events and touring artists primarily) - that he is in.

He is always confident that, in time, he will be able to get bigger 'gigs' with bigger artists and acts - and when that happens he can make a good living. But his current situation is one that is driven by low pay in a zero hours contracts business. And it is a nightmare.

(Aside - music touring will be negatively impacted when we leave the EU due to changes in how easily or not bands and artists can move between the countries of the EU and the UK - and also how artists and bands move and sell their merch. But that is just a moan I get from him - as it is a big worry in the music touring sector).
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My Son lived and worked in Sheffield 15 years ago, he lived around the Eccleshall road which I thought was a lovely area. He worked for a Graphic Design company based in Dore just up the road and did very well there.
 
harpo_72 said:
It's like work ... you can't sack them they are embedded but you give them a window seat and keep them on the periphery ... both should be thanked for their service and then told their is a flight to somewhere else .... Like the Australian jungle with two Geordies waiting to greet them :cool:
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Sadly it will probably be the HoL.
 
Dominic Grieve on James O'Brien making it very clear that as Chair of the Committee who commissioned and own the Russia Report, he has not had any communication whatsoever from Johnson explaining why he will not sign-off release of the report. Grieve explains that all sensitive information has been redacted and the Security and Intelligence services are happy for it to be released; and whilst there is a process that accommodates government review of the report before sign-off, the government must first explain to the Committee the reason for requiring the delay - but it has not done so - and Grieve will know. Grieve is clear that, process-wise, he has no idea why Johnson is refusing to sign-off release. Grieve also explained that when a new government is in place it is quite possible for the report to never be published. So why the delay now? What is Johnson covering up?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Dominic Grieve on James O'Brien making it very clear that as Chair of the Committee who commissioned and own the Russia Report, he has not had any communication whatsoever from Johnson explaining why he will not sign-off release of the report. Grieve explains that all sensitive information has been redacted and the Security and Intelligence services are happy for it to be released; and whilst there is a process that accommodates government review of the report before sign-off, the government must first explain to the Committee the reason for requiring the delay - but it has not done so - and Grieve will know. Grieve is clear that, process-wise, he has no idea why Johnson is refusing to sign-off release. Grieve also explained that when a new government is in place it is quite possible for the report to never be published. So why the delay now? What is Johnson covering up?
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The behaviour could be viewed negatively and a sign of future behaviours ... don't think I could vote for him .. ever irrespective of his manifesto and pledges.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Dominic Grieve on James O'Brien making it very clear that as Chair of the Committee who commissioned and own the Russia Report, he has not had any communication whatsoever from Johnson explaining why he will not sign-off release of the report. Grieve explains that all sensitive information has been redacted and the Security and Intelligence services are happy for it to be released; and whilst there is a process that accommodates government review of the report before sign-off, the government must first explain to the Committee the reason for requiring the delay - but it has not done so - and Grieve will know. Grieve is clear that, process-wise, he has no idea why Johnson is refusing to sign-off release. Grieve also explained that when a new government is in place it is quite possible for the report to never be published. So why the delay now? What is Johnson covering up?
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You may have a point, but Grieve also has an axe to grind.
It’s very comfortable sitting here on my fence. :geek:
 
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