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AND HERE WE GO - THE 2019 GENERAL ELECTION THREAD

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drdel said:
BBC seems to have rolled back their stance as GCHQ's specialists are suggesting it wasn't serious or sustained. Unsurprisingly there are counterclaims and conspiracy theories springing up.
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I've heard it was Boris using a ZX Spectrum and someone even has published the programming he used.

10 Print 'Labour are Bad'
20 Goto 10

Hasn't been denied yet so huge if true ;)
 
pauldj42 said:
Nope. Not a chance of Farage going away, it’s sad people think this GE is only about Brexit.
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Taken from someone a lot cleverer than me on Twitter' Farage has now discovered what happens when you negotiate on a tight deadline with a far stronger partner for whom not getting a deal isn't nearly as big a threat. '
 
Denial of Service attacks are very unsophisticated and quite easy to launch - but if not properly protected against they can overwhelm vulnerable internet-facing servers. So it's not really true to suggest it's not serious - as it can be. Often used as a simple 'stacking horse' attack to see how well the target environment copes as the attacker may be able to deduce from that where there might be weaknesses to be exploited.
 
Old Skier said:
Nobody could, but paying for it is always the problem. There has already been talk by nurseries suggesting that on the money they would get from government they wouldn't be able to provide enough places with suitably trained staff for pre school children.
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But as the Labour Manifesto with full costings is due for publication next week, what is the talk based on?
Where are these nurseries getting there info from?
 
pauldj42 said:
But as the Labour Manifesto with full costings is due for publication next week, what is the talk based on?
Where are these nurseries getting there info from?
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I presume they know how much it costs for trained staff, how many youngsters will fall within the age range and how much it would cost to meet the demand. Nobody was disagreeing with the sentiment just the possible cost, it's was a discussion, no politicians, with providers.
 
Old Skier said:
I presume they know how much it costs for trained staff, how many youngsters will fall within the age range and how much it would cost to meet the demand. Nobody was disagreeing with the sentiment just the possible cost, it's was a discussion, no politicians, with providers.
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But I’d hope the manifesto will show it can be funded, the nurseries can’t say they won’t get enough money when they don’t know yet what they will be given.
I’d imagine some will rub their hands and some will put their hands up.
 
Dando said:
cant wait for my tax to go through the roof to pay for that lot if by some miracle he wins
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Why are you on £100k plus ? Probably equates to £5/month from all the honest tax payers.
Of cause Amazon and Vodafone will not pay it 🤣
 
pauldj42 said:
Wouldn’t disagree with any of this.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1194148822793900034
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Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
 
pauldj42 said:
But I’d hope the manifesto will show it can be funded, the nurseries can’t say they won’t get enough money when they don’t know yet what they will be given.
I’d imagine some will rub their hands and some will put their hands up.
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And some will still charge to meet the difference
 
Hobbit said:
Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
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Use some of the 88billion from hs2
 
Hobbit said:
Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
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Does look like a huge amount, but there may be a hidden strategy of making places harder to come by .. or killing off courses that are a bit erm pointless ( sorry I don’t have any diplomacy 🙂)
 
Hobbit said:
Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
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I don’t think it’s a soundbite Bri, I’d expect these tweets to be in the manifesto, and I totally agree how it’s funded will be my issue.
I’ll save my laughing till then.;)
 
Hobbit said:
Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
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Its easy. You just say you will borrow it and the outcomes will be an asset. Hey presto it's fully funded.
 
Hobbit said:
Oh me sides, you're killing me.

1.8 million university students in the UK, excluding foreign students. Annual tuition fees = £9250.

£1,665,000,000 to fund it.

I'll wait to see how its supposed to be funded in the manifesto but this looks like a soundbite to buy student votes. Sceptical? Hell yes! Affordable... lets wait and see how it and all the other 'buys' are going to be funded.:ROFLMAO:
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We have too much capacity in HE it needs to shrink; any such investment needs to be carefully thought through

We rely too much on overseas fee payers who actually still don't pay the true cost: there are huge number of Chinese, Indian and other nations (especially at postgrad level). Very, very few Brits can afford to stay on to Post Graduate level; I've lectured to p/grads in the UK where only 3 out of 37 were UK: so we are educating the 'competition' and after a few years we will lose our intellectual lead so they will stop coming as their domestic business, science and educational capabilities be way ahead of us!! We need to keep our over seas students coming but be careful at the same time.
 
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