chrisd
Major Champion
You know what Phil, at your age if you dont know you aren't going to accept anyone's reasons but I'm pretty sure if you look up "Jeremy Corbyn" in a dictionary it'll just say "appalling person"
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You know what Phil, at your age if you dont know you aren't going to accept anyone's reasons but I'm pretty sure if you look up "Jeremy Corbyn" in a dictionary it'll just say "appalling person"
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Then show it - instead of just blurting it out on a daily basis - show me why Jeremy Corbyn is an appalling person
actually give some reasons for a change instead of just insults and accusations
And to counter before you give any reasons - here is the stuff about his peace award
http://www.ipb.org/jeremy-corbyn/
chrisd
Major Champion
No Phil, I'm not playing that game ?
A different tack. Can anyone see the Libdems doing well? By all accounts Swinson is a major turn off and their poll numbers have flatlined. Will they do well enough in key seats to make a difference?
They don't really register up here so I'm wondering if there is a positive vibe elsewhere?
They don't really register up here so I'm wondering if there is a positive vibe elsewhere?
chrisd
Major Champion
Not in Kent I wouldn't think
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Look at the marginal leave seats .. that’s their opportunity
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Taking your lead I looked up liar and it said Boris...
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It’s not a game , that’s the problem with this whole thing , people like yourself throw statements and accusations around aimed towards Labour and Corbyn because you are clearly a Tory supporter and like most of them when challenged to provide some actual basis you can’t. That’s why you resort to attempting to turn it around to me
You called Corbyn an “appalling person”
You were asked why he is an appalling person and you clearly can’t answer it
It’s the stereotypical picture of this whole election campaign
chrisd
Major Champion
chrisd
Major Champion
Comedy gold Phil - what's coming up after the adverts?
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What’s wrong ? Is that all you can answer ? You are very vocal against Corbyn and Labour which is your right but surely when someone ask for reasons why you call someone “appalling” you must have them to hand ? No ?
I’ll help you out -
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/music3/707-bruce-springsteen-the-wall
Below are Mr Waugh-Monger's ten commandments telling UK electors why they should not, under any circumstances, vote for Jeremy Corbyn.
1. Jeremy Corbyn wants to 'stop the war'.
Jeremy Corbyn opposed the bombing of Yugoslavia. He opposed the invasion of Afghanistan. He was against the invasion of Iraq. He was against bombing Libya and also voted against military action in Syria.
I ask you – is this the sort of man who is fit to be prime minister?
If Corbyn – heaven forbid – had been British Prime Minister in 2003 he would not have committed British troops to the invasion of Iraq. Just imagine what would have happened if we hadn't invaded Iraq! Well, I'll tell you what would have happened – the Middle East would now be a haven for terrorist groups which would be targeting British tourists on beaches when they go on their summer holidays. The whole Middle East would now be in turmoil. We'd be facing a refugee crisis with people fleeing all the countries that we hadn't destabilized.
2. Jeremy Corbyn is a dangerous leftist.
Just look at the sort of policies this man supports. He wants to re-nationalize the railways which have the highest fares in Europe.
He wants to scrap university tuition fees which consign students to a lifetime of debt. He would like to make housing affordable for ordinary people.
He wants an economy to suit the needs of the majority and not the 1%.
He wants to keep the Sunday trading laws as they are and not introduce 24/7 shopping. He is opposed to illegal wars which kill hundreds of thousands of people and he does not want to bring back fox-hunting. Quite clearly the man is some kind of left-wing nutcase.
3. Jeremy Corbyn has been critical of the US and Israel.
Outrageously, Corbyn has criticized US foreign policy and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. He seems to think that the US and Israel have to abide by international law – and should be held accountable for their actions. The man is quite obviously a communist and as such should not become Britain's prime minister.
4. Jeremy Corbyn has extremist links.
Not only is Corbyn a dangerous radical himself, he also associates with dangerous extremists. He once spoke at a meeting where one of the other speakers had once shared a platform with a speaker who had once shared a platform with a speaker who had once shared a platform with a speaker who had once praised Joseph Stalin – proving undeniably that Corbyn is a Stalinist.
Also on Twitter, Corbyn once retweeted a person who had once retweeted another person who had once retweeted another person who had retweeted a tweet from someone who I don't approve of – proving once again Corby's extremism.
5. Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable.
Jeremy Corbyn wants to do things which the majority of the British public wants, such as re-nationalize the railways and keep Britain out of Middle East wars. This makes him unelectable because politicians are only electable if they want to do things the public doesn't want.
At the last election, Labour lost heavily to the anti-austerity SNP in Scotland and also lost lots of votes to the anti-austerity Greens. So it's obvious that to get these votes back, Labour needs a leader who supports austerity, and not someone who opposes it, like Corbyn.
I'm a very wealthy right-wing, pro-austerity warmonger, but believe me, I only want the best for Labour – which is to be a right-wing pro-austerity, pro-war party – barely distinguishable from the Tories.
Having two main parties who have identical views on the main issues is what democracy is all about. Corbyn as Labour leader will be very different from the Conservatives, which would obviously be very bad for democracy as it would give the electorate a real choice.
6. Jeremy Corbyn wants to take us back to the 1970s.
In the 1970s the gap between the rich and poor was at its lowest in the UK's history. Living standards for ordinary people were rising all the time and large sections of the economy were in public ownership. The banks did not run the country and the taxation system was steeply progressive.
Corbyn wants to take us back to these times! Think how disastrous that would be for rich people like me who would have to pay much higher rates of tax which would be redistributed to horrible working class-type people and people on middle incomes. The 1% would really suffer and the most talented people – like myself – and my neocon friends, would leave the country. That's what lies in store for us if Corbyn succeeds!
7. Jeremy Corbyn would leave Britain defenseless and open to invasion.
Corbyn has promised to scrap Trident.
If Trident was scrapped there's no doubt that the Russians, Iranians, Syrians and Hezbollah would launch a full scale invasion of Britain within 45 minutes.
Britain would be carved up between the 'Axis of Evil', with the Russians taking England, the Iranians Scotland and the Syrians, Wales (and Hezbollah in charge of Northern Ireland).
Just imagine, Aberystywyth under the control of the evil dictator Bashar al-Assad. Russian troops patroling the streets of Godalming. Iran's Revolutionary Guard marching in Sauchiehall Street. A nightmare scenario indeed, but all this would be the reality if Corbyn gets his way. The very future of our country is at stake.
8. Jeremy Corbyn once welcomed an article by John Pilger.
In 2004, Jeremy Corbyn was one of 25 MPs who signed an Early Day Motion which welcomed a Pilger article on Kosovo.
How outrageous! To think, a man who is now the leader of one of Britain's major parties once welcomed an article by John Pilger!
No one who has ever cited John Pilger with approval – let alone signed a motion supporting him – should be allowed to stand for high public office in Britain. The freedom to hold and express views and opinions in a democracy should only apply to opinions and views that myself and fellow elite neocons approve of! And we most certainly do not approve of John Pilger!
9. Jeremy Corbyn opposes austerity.
Austerity is working brilliantly at the moment.
It's provided a great excuse for the government to flog off remaining state assets at below their true market value to 'the right people' in the City. The welfare payments of lower-class people who have far too many children are being cut. Libraries and local authority services are being closed. Yet, guess what? The bearded one opposes all of this. He says that "austerity is a political choice, not an economic necessity."
He wants to protect public services and libraries from cuts – and instead wants to crackdown on tax evasion and increase taxes on the very wealthy! I ask you – is this the sort of man we want leading Labour – or worse still, the country?
And finally, but most importantly, the tenth commandment:
10. Jeremy Corbyn is very popular.
...And if he succeeds, it's game over for me and my little clique of elite warmongers. We won't get our wars and we'll have to pay more taxes and it'll be all perfectly horrible! So, don't vote for Jeremy Corbyn, because although he'll be very good news for you – his success will be terrible for us!
Such an appalling person ?
chrisd
Major Champion
Cant be arsed to read it Phil but thanks for all that copy and paste 10 out of 10 for effort ??
Kellfire
Blackballed
You’re an example of why people should have to pass a test to be allowed to vote.
chrisd
Major Champion
Probably right, but I would pass it !
Kellfire
Blackballed
Unlikely, you’re oblivious to things that might change your mind because you’re completely unmoving. My test would require people to demonstrate the understand the aims of the parties...
chrisd
Major Champion
Are you saying that you'd be setting the test?
There's no hope for anyone, we're all doomed
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Down in Kent they are close to EDL.
They think that the immigration that they see, which are people jumping out of trucks will stop with Brexit. What they don’t understand is it will increase when the French stop using holding pens.
You know if that’s what people want let them have it ... and when the moaning starts just say that’s what you wanted. Looking forward to the beaches having the sewage pumped back out onto them as well ..
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Should do ok here, always get a few Scottish seats and some in SW England. Their Holyrood leader cheeky Willie Rennie seems to have a bit of fan club up here.
UK wide I think plenty of disaffected Tory and Labour voters that have nowhere else to put their votes this time will vote LD. Also think the tactical voting will help them where Labour and Lib Dem voters will choose best option to beat tory candidates rather than support own party. In 2017 there was a very strong 2 party vote, 42% v 40% I recall. Both main parties have performed poorly since summer 2017 imo, so perhaps that 2 party loyalty will be tested? Swinson is a bit bland but look who she's up against! Don't discount significant female support too, must be many fed up with Johnson particularly.
LDs do register where I am, long time LD seat until 2015, in 2017 only a 2k majority for SNP over LDs so could be a closer one this time - waste of a vote going red or blue here, neither have any chance at all, so only 2 shades of yellow, so tactically LDs should get all the anti SNP vote. Although it is claimed to be the Brexit election, that is not the case up here, it will be a Indy/Union contest as it always is. Tedious.
Johnson's hustings have been weak imo, not as weak as May's in 2017 though and although i expect him to pick up seats in England he may well lose 10+ in Scotland without RuthD (who also hates Johnson) and perhaps some in Wales, also will not be able to count on DUP support with his current deal unacceptable to them, if it does end up a hung parliament.
chrisd
Major Champion
Yes of course we are all thick, dont understand what's going on in the world and I, for one, am so pleased that there are such expert people on a golf forum to put us right.
Kellfire
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You might not be thick but you won’t even listen to the arguments from the other side.
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