America as a democracy is DEAD.

Ye Olde Boomer

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Donald Trump essentially got re-elected last night, and the American Republic will not survive four more years of his tyrannical reign.

Church-going conservative African Americans in the south gave Joe Biden the Democratic nomination. And they're all Uncle Toms for doing it.
Understand, by the way, that those southern states that anointed Biden as the Democratic nominee will not cast one electoral vote in the general election for anybody but Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, if you're a decent human being who believes in socialized medicine, public funding of education, and regulations on the private sector, you simply don't see enough difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump to bother voting next November. The Bernie Bros will be staying home, and without them, the Democrats have no chance of unseating Trump.

Americans have turned their nation into West North Korea.
I admittedly thought that you folks have done some pretty dumb stuff lately, but you're geniuses compared to us. We didn't even last three hundred years.
 
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JollyRedDevil said:
I see that Bloomberg has thrown his weight behind Biden now.
Do you think Bernie had a chance against Trump?
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I did for this reason. The actual Democrats will all come out to vote for anybody against Trump. For that reason, they would have come out to vote for Sanders.

The socialists backing Sanders, however, are not necessarily real Democrats.
We're either unaffiliated or, like myself, registered as Democrats only in the absence of an American Social Democratic Party.
Biden will not address any of our concerns, so from our perspective, he's no better than Trump.

I will go to the polls and vote for Biden holding my nose and trying not to vomit. A few others will as well.
But just as in 2016, most of us will simply sit the election out.

Trump will win, and the Republic will have NO chance to survive. It's barely breathing now.
 
Seattle friends of ours who are strong Dems are adamant that Bernie as Dem presidential candidate would be a disaster and have Trump as shoe-in. ABB there were saying - and so I am guessing they'd be OK with Biden - at least he will have a chance - BS - no chance whatsoever! Though seriously the thought of UK having to negotiate a trade deal with Trump does not fill me with a great deal of hope that we'll get what we need - no matter what Trump might say today - he can change what he says tomorrow and deny today.
 
Ye Olde Boomer said:
Donald Trump essentially got re-elected last night, and the American Republic will not survive four more years of his tyrannical reign.

Church-going conservative African Americans in the south gave Joe Biden the Democratic nomination. And they're all Uncle Toms for doing it.
Understand, by the way, that those southern states that anointed Biden as the Democratic nominee will not cast one electoral vote in the general election for anybody but Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, if you're a decent human being who believes in socialized medicine, public funding of education, and regulations on the private sector, you simply don't see enough difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump to bother voting next November. The Bernie Bros will be staying home, and without them, the Democrats have no chance of unseating Trump.

Americans have turned their nation into West North Korea.
I admittedly thought that you folks have done some pretty dumb *** lately, but you're geniuses compared to us. We didn't even last three hundred years.
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Uncle toms?

Really?

Are you sure that Trump is the baddie when you are saying stuff like that?
 
While I certainly with the sentiment, if not the wording, I don't believe trying to ditch Trump as President is the way Democrats (who are certainly not a 'socialist' party imo) should try to curtail Trump's power. Gaining a majority in the House of Reps, while keeping their majority in the Senate, is their best tactic imo!

After all, he'd have been ditched - aka impeached and ditched - already if they had that!
 
Ye Olde Boomer said:
I did for this reason. The actual Democrats will all come out to vote for anybody against Trump. For that reason, they would have come out to vote for Sanders.

The socialists backing Sanders, however, are not necessarily real Democrats.
We're either unaffiliated or, like myself, registered as Democrats only in the absence of an American Social Democratic Party.
Biden will not address any of our concerns, so from our perspective, he's no better than Trump.

I will go to the polls and vote for Biden holding my nose and trying not to vomit. A few others will as well.
But just as in 2016, most of us will simply sit the election out.

Trump will win, and the Republic will have NO chance to survive. It's barely breathing now.
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I always believe that if you don’t vote, then you shouldn’t complain about the outcome not being to your liking.

Also, if you wish to contribute please note the Lounge is for golf stuff, for non golf topics use Out of Bounds - people on here can be very particular ?
 
Siolag said:
Not really sure this is either golf related or indeed UK related, but I fully agree, it looks like Trump is staying in the White House.
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Here's hoping, the entertainment has been magnificent to watch....four more year ! four more years ! four more years !
 
America does not have universal socialized medicine. The UK does.
America does not have comprehensive public funding of education. The UK does.
America has a virtually unregulated private sector. The UK, presumably, has a measure of regulation.

It costs millions of dollars to run for national office in America, and there is no limit on how much private corporations can spend on political action committees.
I don't know too much about the UK's electoral process, but I'm sure it's in no way comparable. Elections are bought and sold under current American law.

American medical insurance and pharmaceutical companies make hundreds of billions of dollars in profits each year, no more than half of insurance premium money goes to actual health care, our health care costs are way more than double what Europe spends per person, and a huge segment of our population has no coverage at all. Medical expenses are the leading cause of personal bankruptcies in the United States.

Your former colonies here are now a full-fledged banana republic. Banana republics don't become civilized nations through incremental change. That process requires a political revolution.
Bernie Sanders was the face of American revolution, and the African American voters in the southern states, some of the people who need substantial change the most, are, among our working class citizens, the ones most afraid of it. These are largely people afflicted with strong religious beliefs (superstitions in my view) who listen to their pastors, all of whom are buyable, and vote accordingly.

African Americans have always had a problem with American right wingers, but now there's a race divide developing in the working class that is a blessing to American oligarchs and autocrats.
 
IanM said:
Yep. None so blind eh?

And unless it is no longer "one person one vote" I guess it's still a democracy.

Unless the definition changed since I graduated
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It’s fascinating when the self proclaimed liberal progressives are being racist. And on top of that seem to think that democracy only means to get their personal political candidate to win.
 
Ye Olde Boomer said:
It costs millions of dollars to run for national office in America, and there is no limit on how much private corporations can spend on political action committees.
I don't know too much about the UK's electoral process, but I'm sure it's in no way comparable. Elections are bought and sold under current American law.

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There are limits on the UK on how much a party may spend.

One emerging party, supported by a billionaire, is being taken to court for how much was spent in a recent election.
 
Ye Olde Boomer said:
America does not have universal socialized medicine. The UK does.
America does not have comprehensive public funding of education. The UK does.
America has a virtually unregulated private sector. The UK, presumably, has a measure of regulation.

It costs millions of dollars to run for national office in America, and there is no limit on how much private corporations can spend on political action committees.
I don't know too much about the UK's electoral process, but I'm sure it's in no way comparable. Elections are bought and sold under current American law.

American medical insurance and pharmaceutical companies make hundreds of billions of dollars in profits each year, no more than half of insurance premium money goes to actual health care, our health care costs are way more than double what Europe spends per person, and a huge segment of our population has no coverage at all. Medical expenses are the leading cause of personal bankruptcies in the United States.

Your former colonies here are now a full-fledged banana republic. Banana republics don't become civilized nations through incremental change. That process requires a political revolution.
Bernie Sanders was the face of American revolution, and the African American voters in the southern states, some of the people who need substantial change the most, are, among our working class citizens, the ones most afraid of it. These are largely people afflicted with strong religious beliefs (superstitions in my view) who listen to their pastors, all of whom are buyable, and vote accordingly.

African Americans have always had a problem with American right wingers, but now there's a race divide developing in the working class that is a blessing to American oligarchs and autocrats.
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unfortunately with the shower we have in now we will be going the same way... Turkeys and Christmas spings to mind
 
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