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.......Manouverability, Directional control, Up,Down,In,Out,Left,Right....Call it what you will......

Now that its practically fashionable to have the latest technological advancement in gear i wonder how far away we are from adjustable Irons and wedges.... ( God Forbid).....But surely there will come a day that irons can be tinkered with.....

I mean you hat have to search Ebay for a shaft now and your spoilt for choice for woods....
Being able to interchange iron shafts with the twist of a Torx is surely close.....
 
I believe there are actually several patents actual in exsistence for adjustable irons.

Driver and putter in use irons will be within a few years I reckon your prediction is correct.
 
Do you actually need it though.

I mean I had the original r11, adjustable weights , adjustable face angle, adjustable lofts - wild results.

The amp has no adjustment other than open closed or neutral, I dont okay nor will I as I'm then planting doubt, it has a well matched high spec shaft, right loft and us set in neutral, and wild ones are operator error!
 
Oddsocks said:
Do you actually need it though.

I mean I had the original r11, adjustable weights , adjustable face angle, adjustable lofts - wild results.

The amp has no adjustment other than open closed or neutral, I dont okay nor will I as I'm then planting doubt, it has a well matched high spec shaft, right loft and us set in neutral, and wild ones are operator error!
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It's a pity you can't adjust it to make it more attractive?
 
I've always seen the point of adjustability and changable shafts from a fitting point of view - perfect for the fitter, just undo a screw, change whatever and tighten. Simple and cost effective.
But when you get your Driver, wood or whatever, if it's adjustable then you're going to adjust it - sooner or later.
Why? You've just spent however long getting the fit correct. Then you change it to try and alter ball flight - does this actually work for anyone? If I adjusted my driver to change my ballflight all I'd see is the ball going every which way bar the intended one - because the driver works for me on setting A. Move it to setting B and it won't, otherwise you'd have been fitted at setting B...
Use the adjustability to fit then fix the club.
I think too many Club Golfers expect too much from their ability, change this on the club and that will happen.
For the most part I don't think it does.
 
Imurg said:
I've always seen the point of adjustability and changable shafts from a fitting point of view - perfect for the fitter, just undo a screw, change whatever and tighten. Simple and cost effective.
But when you get your Driver, wood or whatever, if it's adjustable then you're going to adjust it - sooner or later.
Why? You've just spent however long getting the fit correct. Then you change it to try and alter ball flight - does this actually work for anyone? If I adjusted my driver to change my ballflight all I'd see is the ball going every which way bar the intended one - because the driver works for me on setting A. Move it to setting B and it won't, otherwise you'd have been fitted at setting B...
Use the adjustability to fit then fix the club.
I think too many Club Golfers expect too much from their ability, change this on the club and that will happen.
For the most part I don't think it does.
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My view for what its worth, is that they are great for fitters and great in allowing people to experiment with shafts because there's a healthy used market for them and people can easily - in comparison to doing a full reshaft - sleeve one up themselves.

My main gripe with them, is people think the adjustability will cure all their problems and to be perfectly honest, I lot of people I know who have them, haven't really got a clue as to the 'cause and effect' of what they do when they mess about with them.

But, adjustability sells drivers these days - sadly. I wonder how many times Rory adjusts his?
 
MGL said:
My view for what its worth, is that they are great for fitters and great in allowing people to experiment with shafts because there's a healthy used market for them and people can easily - in comparison to doing a full reshaft - sleeve one up themselves.

My main gripe with them, is people think the adjustability will cure all their problems and to be perfectly honest, I lot of people I know who have them, haven't really got a clue as to the 'cause and effect' of what they do when they mess about with them.

But, adjustability sells drivers these days - sadly. I wonder how many times Rory adjusts his?
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the pros are as bad, if not worse than us !!!
 
I am very soon to purchase my 1st adjustable driver, after loving my Cobra 3 wood that I picked up 2nd hand I have decided the Cobra AMP Cell driver. It is adjustable but I am getting all the work done by the fitter based at my club, if I am struggling he will adjust it again for me.

I don't expect it to cure my faults BUT I do expect it to be better suite to me than my last driver which was a draw biased regular shaft 10.5 which was a hook fest! My new driver will hopefully be more like my 3 wood which is 230+ yards and usually straight!
 
Even though I don't own an adjustable driver I would benefit from one because as my swing improves I could, with the help of my coach, adjust club/change shaft. Cheaper than buying a new club but having said that many have ditched their 'broken' R11 for a different adjustable model...
 
I agree 100% that people need to buy the driver get it set up then "LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!" That is the biggest problem with adjustable drivers. I remember before adjustable drivers, people would stand up to the ball with their driver, then either open or shut the face depending on what suited them. That was low handicap players that did that not just high ones. So adjustable drivers has taken away the need for that as they are already set up to suit your swing style.

But the problem is people are always striving for perfection and if their driving is not quite perfect the first thing they do is reach for the wrench and adjust their driver.
 
Great idea in theory but people buying clubs to fix their swing faults is where it falls apart

We don't swing consistent enough from one day to the next, one week you could be hooking it so adjust it, the next your slicing it so you adjust it etc etc etc

It's not the miracle cure and I won't be buying one for the adjustment factor but hey ho each to their own I guess but if it works it works so can see why they sell so well
 
The one advantage I can see is it makes the club able to change as the player improves. If I had bought an adjustable driver 1st time round I could have just bought a new shaft, stuck it in and then tweaked it off the draw bias to standard and knocked the loft down from 10.5 to 9.5

Instead I am having to go buy a new driver as my swing speed is VERY different and my swing is now too.

I will not do any adjusting of my driver once I am happy with it and the fitter is happy with it. Unless of course I get even better and need a fade bias and even less loft!
 
Mugs said:
Great idea in theory but people buying clubs to fix their swing faults is where it falls apart

We don't swing consistent enough from one day to the next, one week you could be hooking it so adjust it, the next your slicing it so you adjust it etc etc etc

It's not the miracle cure and I won't be buying one for the adjustment factor but hey ho each to their own I guess but if it works it works so can see why they sell so well
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People should not be buying these clubs to fix their faults as that is not the idea. Pro players have always had their drivers customised and this has now given us the same. I love them for one reason, my natural swing hits a high draw, by using an adjustable driver I can make the ball fly lower with a lot less draw.

Regarding your second statement a lot of golfers have a consistent enough swing to set one of these up and leave it. Anyone who hooks it one week then slices it the next has a major problem and needs professional advice. No golf club in the world is going ot help them.
 
All for adjustability in the right hands, i.e. pros and fitters. I'm not a huge fan of adjustability for the average golfer including myself as the temptation is to reach for thr wrench at the first sign on trouble. I am all for being fitted and finding the optimum set up and then leaving it exactly where it is. I tinker way too much with my game already so add another part of it to play with and a recipe for disaster
 
HomerJSimpson said:
All for adjustability in the right hands, i.e. pros and fitters.
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Yup, I agree with this. If I had an issue within a reasonable time after a fitting I would hope the fitter would make an adjustment for me. If my swing improved I would go to get a fitter to readjust my club to suit my improved swing.

Another advantage is for the aging golfer loft can be added as the swing gets slower :D
 
The adjustability is all about cost for the manufacturer. Taylormade now only need to make one style of R1 whereas before there were draw/tour versions etc. they sell it to us as a fix all etc but really it's all about the bottom line. Perfect sense really.
 
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