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Zoopla have dumped West Brom over the alleged racist gesture by Anelka. If it is a moral stand then fair play to them, but the cynic in me wonders if they've got more coverage from the split than from the shirt sponsorship? In fact does sponsorship work at all; Chelsea have Samsung plastered all over their shirts, yet I can't think of one Samsung device that we own.
 
Blue in Munich said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25810659

Zoopla have dumped West Brom over the alleged racist gesture by Anelka. If it is a moral stand then fair play to them, but the cynic in me wonders if they've got more coverage from the split than from the shirt sponsorship? In fact does sponsorship work at all; Chelsea have Samsung plastered all over their shirts, yet I can't think of one Samsung device that we own.
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I believe that the owner is a Jew and his decision would be quite understandable
 
Got to admit I wasn't even aware of the gesture before this insident.
Haven't got a clue what he thought was going to happen after he did it,bit like Chris Smalling dressing as a suicide bomber:confused:
 
They haven't 'dumped' them per say, they have just said that they will not renew at the end if the season when the current contract is up.

The moral outrage only goes so far it seems
 
To me Zoopla just wanted out of the contract this is the perfect scenario for them lots of publicity whilst appearing to do the right thing whatever that means
 
freddielong said:
To me Zoopla just wanted out of the contract this is the perfect scenario for them lots of publicity whilst appearing to do the right thing whatever that means
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I'm usually quite cyclical, but I don't think the business man would so brazenly use his religion as a reason to pull out if they were just gonna terminate anyways. They have also asked that he be dropped too. Quite a hard stance to take if just wanting the easy way out.
 
Blue in Munich said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25810659

Zoopla have dumped West Brom over the alleged racist gesture by Anelka. If it is a moral stand then fair play to them, but the cynic in me wonders if they've got more coverage from the split than from the shirt sponsorship? In fact does sponsorship work at all; Chelsea have Samsung plastered all over their shirts, yet I can't think of one Samsung device that we own.
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Someone is.

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Im sure Chelsea Isnt responsible for even 1 percent of it but it does add to brand awareness. I have bought Samsung laptops, ultrabooks and phones, cant stand Chelsea mind. :D
 
Probably the owner of Zoopla taking the oppurtunity to create a bit of publicity, granted he may have been offended by Amelka's gesture, but the sponsorship deal with West Brom was due to end at the end of the season anyway.

So his gesture and public dismisal of Brom has worked, as before hand would any of us on here, even mentioned Zoopla or asked/looked up what Zoopla is.
 
Papas1982 said:
I'm usually quite cyclical, but I don't think the business man would so brazenly use his religion as a reason to pull out if they were just gonna terminate anyways. They have also asked that he be dropped too. Quite a hard stance to take if just wanting the easy way out.
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I think he is using it as excuse, business probably hasn't been so good and advertising on shirts is an unnecessary cost. Any excuse to get out, the ethics are meaningless as the Japanese say business is war, use what ever fits your cause of action, cry if need be ....
No one knew what Anelka was doing, why would a coloured player make nazi salutes, knowingly ? I know he is a little challenged upstairs but surely he knows to be a good nazi, one has to be blonde and blue eyed.
 
harpo_72 said:
I think he is using it as excuse, business probably hasn't been so good and advertising on shirts is an unnecessary cost. Any excuse to get out, the ethics are meaningless as the Japanese say business is war, use what ever fits your cause of action, cry if need be ....
No one knew what Anelka was doing, why would a coloured player make nazi salutes, knowingly ? I know he is a little challenged upstairs but surely he knows to be a good nazi, one has to be blonde and blue eyed.
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its not a nazi salute, whilst it's ideals may be the same. It wasn't used by nazis so he wouldn't need to be a blonde.

Maybe be zoopla were gonna pull out, maybe they weren't. And as they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. But I still reckon this will have had an effect on their decision.
 
Khamelion said:
Probably the owner of Zoopla taking the oppurtunity to create a bit of publicity, granted he may have been offended by Amelka's gesture, but the sponsorship deal with West Brom was due to end at the end of the season anyway.

So his gesture and public dismisal of Brom has worked, as before hand would any of us on here, even mentioned Zoopla or asked/looked up what Zoopla is.
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I did
They are quite good if you want to know what your neighbour payed for his house in 2009
 
harpo_72 said:
No one knew what Anelka was doing, why would a coloured player make nazi salutes, knowingly ? I know he is a little challenged upstairs but surely he knows to be a good nazi, one has to be blonde and blue eyed.
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Just on this - I understand that some muslims are anti-Semitic - so it would not be surprising were any of that mindset to celebrate the atrocities of the nazi's. Anelka is a French muslim. Disingenuous to suggest that doing the salute was 'only' in support of his 'buddy' (who needs enemies...) the French-african comedian, and actually he didn't himself know what it meant. Even if he DIDN'T know what it meant he absolutely knows what his anti-semitic comedian buddy is about. So celebrating and supporting his buddy is no different from perpetrating the act himself.

On Zoopla - they don't need the advertising - will make no difference to them. West Brom should have put Anelka on 'gardening leave' while case was being investigated - as for instance happens to teachers when accused of having relations with student. Typical arrogance from a football club thinking that somehow they are different from other types of employers - though actually a bit surprised that a 'nice' club like West Brom can act in this pompous way.

Ban him 5 games. Stinking black racist (as proven by making a racist gesture - not my opinion btw) that he i,s that the least he should get. Sometimes we get the impression that only whities can be racist - not so.

As an aside - when I was maybe 7 yrs old - I called my 5 yr old brother a dirty fenian - I was angry with him and had heard someone use that term in a derogatory way - I didn't know what a fenian was. My dad heard me and boy did I get a very severe bollocking - I never uttered the word again.

Young kids watching Anelka make the gesture might similarly have thought - that looks a cool goal celebration - without of course having any idea (like the rest of us) what it meant - and then put it into practice in the playground. And soon it is being copied. Not good.
 
Couldn't agree less WBA should end it with Zoopla now not wait till the end of the season, a sponsor should in no way influence team selection. Who knows why he did who knows his meaning of the salute from what I have read no one really seems to sure.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Just on this - I understand that some muslims are anti-Semitic - so it would not be surprising were any of that mindset to celebrate the atrocities of the nazi's. Anelka is a French muslim. Disingenuous to suggest that doing the salute was 'only' in support of his 'buddy' (who needs enemies...) the French-african comedian, and actually he didn't himself know what it meant. Even if he DIDN'T know what it meant he absolutely knows what his anti-semitic comedian buddy is about. So celebrating and supporting his buddy is no different from perpetrating the act himself.

On Zoopla - they don't need the advertising - will make no difference to them. West Brom should have put Anelka on 'gardening leave' while case was being investigated - as for instance happens to teachers when accused of having relations with student. Typical arrogance from a football club thinking that somehow they are different from other types of employers - though actually a bit surprised that a 'nice' club like West Brom can act in this pompous way.

Ban him 5 games. Stinking black racist (as proven by making a racist gesture - not my opinion btw) that he i,s that the least he should get. Sometimes we get the impression that only whities can be racist - not so.

As an aside - when I was maybe 7 yrs old - I called my 5 yr old brother a dirty fenian - I was angry with him and had heard someone use that term in a derogatory way - I didn't know what a fenian was. My dad heard me and boy did I get a very severe bollocking - I never uttered the word again.

Young kids watching Anelka make the gesture might similarly have thought - that looks a cool goal celebration - without of course having any idea (like the rest of us) what it meant - and then put it into practice in the playground. And soon it is being copied. Not good.
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I just had to google Fenian :o
You learn something new every day.
 
freddielong said:
Couldn't agree less WBA should end it with Zoopla now not wait till the end of the season, a sponsor should in no way influence team selection. Who knows why he did who knows his meaning of the salute from what I have read no one really seems to sure.
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Zoopla shouldn't have had to make the threat - WBA should have suspended the player themselves as any business with employees in the spotlight would have done.

And it's entirely appropriate for a sponsor to make demands of a recipient of their sponsorship if that recipient acts in a way that is unacceptable to the sponsor. Talk of sponsors not influencing selection is again football completely and deliberately missing the point and using a general principal that most would agree with as a smoke screen for their miserable fear and fawning of their players and players agents.
 
Anelka wrote: "The meaning of the gesture is anti-establishment. I don't know how religion has become a part of this story. This quenelle is dedicated to Dieudonne. With regard to the ministers who give their own interpretations of my quenelle, they are the ones that create confusion and controversy without knowing what it really means.

I would ask people not to be fooled by the media. And of course, I am neither anti-Semitic nor racist and I totally back my gesture."


So, it would seem it is not as clear cut as some would like as Dieudonné himself describes it as "a kind of up yours gesture to the establishment with an in the ass dimension. But it's a quenelle, so it's a bit softer, less violent".

However, Jewish leaders, antiracism groups and public officials describe it as an inverted Nazi salute and as an expression of anti-Semitism.

So, it has been created and presented in one fashion but has been received and described in totally another!

For me, how can you be found guilty of something that has no clear definition?
 
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