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Kaz

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Simple solution is: The Club has a Final’s Day which is announced. If a player is unavailable for that day do not enter The Competition. There are several dates throughout the season when 1/4, semi finals have to be played. There is a reserve finals day if one player is in 2 Finals or inclement weather. End of story.
Can't agree with this I'm afraid. Few people know categorically at the start of a season long knockout that they'll be available on a set date in September - even if you think you are when you sign up. Happened to me this year - had to pull out of a knockout when something came up that meant I wouldn't be available for the final. Poor show for the players I'd already knocked out and not great for the comp that my next opponent got a walkover.
 

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Our situation is resolved, committee has up held the original finish dates. Partly because the delay being requested was not a good enough reason .. it’s play or forfeit. So I opened up the whole weekend to give more opportunity. We will see if we play or not.
 

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I'm new to club golf competitions, but it seems strange to me that when all other competitions are on fixed dates, the matchplay is floating and left to players to sort out themselves.
Even if the earlier rounds are flexible, it would make sense for dates of semis and finals to be fixed at the start of a season. If you don't turn up, your opponent wins.
I've never participated in any amateur sport that runs any other way.
It's always been like this for several reasons:
1) You can arrange to play it around your normal golfing arrangements. At weekends there are club matches, competitions, people that play county golf, scratch players that play in amateur tournaments.
2) Not everyone is available to play Saturday and Sunday due to family and work commitments.
3) A lot of clubs have pretty full competition calendars during the main summer months.
4) People should be mature enough to be able to arrange a game of golf.
 

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When I was a kid my club had a very good policy with regards to knockout comps. Player 1 has the responsibility to contact player 2 offering 3 different times that he is available to play. By different they do not mean Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday at 8am. By different they expect you to be able to offer a weekday time during the day or evening and at a weekend, or at least be able to offer 2 of those times. If player 1 or player 2 is not being reasonable then you can request the committee to intervene and either force the game to be played or disqualify one of the players. Everyone knew this and in 8 years of playing there I never had, or knew of anyone that went to the committee for a decision. I saw players actually concede the match, as they didn't want to be that person that makes the committee get involved.
 
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The committee decided that they would extend the date to October 12th to give both players a chance to sort it out.

BUT

Player one had had to pull out due to ill health and the committee felt that seeing as player 2 had "done nothing wrong" have awarded to competition to him. Player 2 is naturally upset that this is the way things have panned out and is very concerned for player ones health but has been reassured that player one is ok.

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The committee decided that they would extend the date to October 12th to give both players a chance to sort it out.

BUT

Player one had had to pull out due to ill health and the committee felt that seeing as player 2 had "done nothing wrong" have awarded to competition to him. Player 2 is naturally upset that this is the way things have panned out and is very concerned for player ones health but has been reassured that player one is ok.

The End

So you won the competition by default then

Any respectable committee and indeed opponent would have decided to wait until both were fully fit to play - even if it was months . We have done that a number of times now
 

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So you won the competition by default then

Any respectable committee and indeed opponent would have decided to wait until both were fully fit to play - even if it was months . We have done that a number of times now
Or even years? Or would you give a final deadline date that is not flexible like the original deadline date?
 

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Deadlines are required if you set them at the outset then they need to be held unless there is a very good reason … like a pandemic but otherwise the players have to mange inside the window
 

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Each situation would be treated on its own merits - we have in that past delayed one final by 12 months because of injury
Although I agree every situation needs to be looked at individually, delaying a competition for a year due to injury sounds crazy. You wouldn't do that for a medal. What if the other guy that wasnt injured wasn't happy with that? What if he didn't rejoin. What if a year passed, he wasn't in great form and suddenly claimed an injury himself? What if, in the next years competition, others want deadlines extended and claim injury as well.

It can get messy. I'd sooner stick to a deadline. If someone gets injured, that is just unfortunate. Just hope they get better and fit for future golf comps.
 

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That's taking golf far too seriously...

I would be conceding the game whether I was player A or B in this instance above.
Why is it taking it too seriously 🤷‍♂️ All four players were more than happy to wait for someone who had an injury , it didn’t have any dramatic affect on anyone else or any other competition

Although I agree every situation needs to be looked at individually, delaying a competition for a year due to injury sounds crazy. You wouldn't do that for a medal. What if the other guy that wasnt injured wasn't happy with that? What if he didn't rejoin. What if a year passed, he wasn't in great form and suddenly claimed an injury himself? What if, in the next years competition, others want deadlines extended and claim injury as well.

It can get messy. I'd sooner stick to a deadline. If someone gets injured, that is just unfortunate. Just hope they get better and fit for future golf comps.
It wasn’t a medal though - it’s a knockout 🤷‍♂️

And what is the point in dealing with What ifs ? Or trying to second guess people ? Any time a final has needed to be extended all opponents have had no issues and people have acted within the spirit of the sport.

As i said judge each situation as it occurs
 

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Why is it taking it too seriously 🤷‍♂️ All four players were more than happy to wait for someone who had an injury , it didn’t have any dramatic affect on anyone else or any other competition



It wasn’t a medal though - it’s a knockout 🤷‍♂️

And what is the point in dealing with What ifs ? Or trying to second guess people ? Any time a final has needed to be extended all opponents have had no issues and people have acted within the spirit of the sport.

As i said judge each situation as it occurs
I'd be interested to know if semi finals for example are granted 12 months injury extension?

If it works for your club then crack on with it but you could look silly if one of the finalists moved clubs or packed in golf.....
 

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I'd be interested to know if semi finals for example are granted 12 months injury extension?

If it works for your club then crack on with it but you could look silly if one of the finalists moved clubs or packed in golf.....
Bit of a dampener for presentation evening as well, if applicable
 

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I'd be interested to know if semi finals for example are granted 12 months injury extension?

If it works for your club then crack on with it but you could look silly if one of the finalists moved clubs or packed in golf.....
no semi finals are not granted the same level of extensions - and if one of the finalists left or stopped playing golf then the opponent will get the match 🤷‍♂️

It’s called being flexible and adapting to the situation
 
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