Would you offer advice?

[Qwerty]

A few posts in Fish's thread had me thinking.
Quite a lot are saying that they don't know enough about the swing to offer advice. Ok, the golf swing can be a bit complex depending on how far you want to look into it but if you saw your PP (who you didn't really know) constantly topping the ball and getting frustrated and you could clearly see they had a reverse pivot (weight on back foot at impact) would you mention it after the round.
Or would you think,it's not my place, I'm not a pro, I'll keep Schtum.

Just asking :thup:

 

[garyinderry]

if I think I can help then I would. if someone doesn't want the advice they can either say so, nod politely and ignore it or listen and possibly learn something.


never had anyone complain. most times people say they are aware of the problem and are trying to work it out, or their pro is. one person on here sent me a private message to thank me for a putting tip I gave them. nothing major, just something you wouldn't notice unless you were watching. simple fix! keep head still, stop leaning towards the hole on short putts through the stroke! saved 30quid on a visit to the pro.

im no expert, it doesn't take an expert to stop quite a lot of problems or to at least stop the same thing happening over and over!

 

[duncan mackie]

A few posts in Fish's thread had me thinking.
Quite a lot are saying that they don't know enough about the swing to offer advice. Ok, the golf swing can be a bit complex depending on how far you want to look into it but if you saw your PP (who you didn't really know) constantly topping the ball and getting frustrated and you could clearly see they had a reverse pivot (weight on back foot at impact) would you mention it after the round.
Or would you think,it's not my place, I'm not a pro, I'll keep Schtum.

Just asking :thup:

I cannot contemplate offering advice to a playing partner I don't really know after the round. During the round I clearly wouldn't because I'm only going to be playing with someone I don't really know in a competition or match!

 

[garyinderry]

quote: mark crossfield.

"the more we talk, the more we share, the easier this game gets for er er er everybody"


Couldn't agree more!

 

[Qwerty]

I cannot contemplate offering advice to a playing partner I don't really know after the round. During the round I clearly wouldn't because I'm only going to be playing with someone I don't really know in a competition or match!

Im not thinking of offering the advice whilst the guy is packing his gear into the car, more so over a pint in the bar whilst having a friendly chat about the round :thup:

 

[Foxholer]

If he was my Playing Partner, so I was allowed to advise, and there was something obvious - to me - then I'd ask if I could make a suggestion and see how he reacted.

The course is not the place for a lesson though.

 

[brysoni23]

I've tried with my regular playing partner. He gets around the course but hooks everything.
I set him up better and he hits a few good shots. He hits one bad and says it feels to weird so back to his strong right hand grip and left him to it ever since.

 

[Hickory_Hacker]

I like the "suggestion" on another thread saying have you practiced your putting, fair shout and it sure beats some novice golfer trying to give a lesson.

Answering the OP - I'm not good enough.

 

[delc]

I cannot contemplate offering advice to a playing partner I don't really know after the round. During the round I clearly wouldn't because I'm only going to be playing with someone I don't really know in a competition or match!

Best not to offer advice to an opponent or fellow competitor during a competition round anyway, as you become liable to a 2-stroke penalty under rule 8-1. Incidentally, I offered some advice to my partner (which is allowed) who was not playing well in a match the other day, and was told where to go. Oh well, at least I tried, and I managed to win the match almost single-handedly, with hardly any help from him!

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I wouldn't say anything because I don't know enough.

To be honest, I don't pay attention to how people swing anyway.

 

[Oddsocks]

It honestly I depends on the issue and how easy it is to spot,

Prime examples are
big long back swings on chips then decelerating causing duffs/fats/knifes,
a putting stroke that's all wrists,
or someone keeping all their weight on one side causing big high slices.

I normally find I only give help to close buddies who maybe play once a month, are high ish handicaps and will normally be triggered by " I don't know what I'm doing wrong can you spot anything "... Regarding friends at the club, I've suggested stuff to a few with positive results if prompted, but I do try not to incase a pro has them working on something already.

 

[pbrown7582]

I don't offer advice either maybe "have you thought of a lesson?" But that's as far as I would go.

 

[Birchy]

If it was somebody I knew and I knew their swing a bit etc then I would offer a suggestion. Ive had tips before when playing with people I know that have obviously seen something im doing different and they have pointed it out to me etc.

If I didn't know them then it would depend on the chatter in the bar. If they tee it up with something like "I don't know what im doing wrong" then I possibly would.

I had a complete chomper once running through my shots in a competition and I was too polite to tell him to do one but it was annoying. Cant remember what handicap he was, possibly lower than me at the time but he was utter rubbish.

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

The only advice I tend to offer regarding swing faults is to say how good our pro is at helping, I'm not on commission and I have too many swing problems of my own to be qualified in offering advice

 

[Qwerty]

I would and I have offered advice. Only on something though that was pretty obvious at the time. I'd spent 4 hrs with the guy, we'd got on fine and were having a drink afterwards and I thought I'd bring it up.

It felt a tad uncomfortable, but probably only because I come on here and I know how some feel about this sort of thing.

I don't see it any differently as offering someone advice at work if I know I can help make their day easier.

Some guys have said they don't know enough to offer advice,and I would of considered them reasonably experienced. Id certainly take on board advice of them if they pointed out something glaringly obvious that I was doing wrong. It'd be much appreciated.

Id struggled for a few weeks a while back and a 20hcap mate pointed out that my right hand had crept to the right at address, Bingo fault solved!

I just think in general golfers are a little precious over the golf swing like its some mystical art. If it's done with a subtle approach and your sure of what you've seen, Then I don't see a problem.

 

[Canary_Yellow]

I wouldn't tell them what I thought they could do to improve, but I would start a conversation about whether they've had lessons and suggest that from my personal experience lessons can be very valuable but without telling them specific tips or things that have worked for me, advice needs to be bespoke based on that person's swing.

I don't like receiving advice from other people, not because I doubt that they are correct, but because I don't want to end up with a million and one swing thoughts. Also, people tend to give advice to others based on what has worked for them, but swings are idiosynctratic such that this is unlikely to work for everyone, particularly for those with higher handicaps!

Everyone learns in their own way, I play with a guy that isn't at all interested in understanding swing mechanics, which is a complete juxtaposition to me, I want to understand what the fundamental motion of a good swing is biomechanically so that I can figure out what I need to work on - for example, if I'm hitting massive slices, or duffing everything, then I'm likely to be doing something fundamentally incorrect, I don't want to try and fudge a solution, I want to understand what the real issue is. However, it would be pointless for me, or anyone else, to start a relatively technical conversation with my friend even though I think he would benefit hugely from, for example, understanding how the arms move relative to the body in a fundamentally sound golf swing, for me to start telling him this would be me imposing my view of how to learn and improve on him.

It's much better to let people find there own way and offer advice only if it's been asked for.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

It depends. To anyone at my current club, not a chance. Not my place and they are all decent handicap golfers. However my best mate took the game up about 9 months ago and is coming along nicely but there are times when you can see obvious things like a ball way too high on a tee for a shot into a par 3 that has nothing to do with technique and a quick word can easily rectify a situation.

I tend not to give too much advice to him or any of his newbie golfing mates. I can see what's wrong a lot of the time but as they are getting group lessons at their club I'll leave it to the pro to help them. IF I'm asked, I'll give a simple answer but usually hold my tongue. Hasn't always been the case but these days less said and all that

 

[Piece]

I would only give advice if it was asked for.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

...if you saw your PP (who you didn't really know) constantly topping the ball and getting frustrated and you could clearly see they had a reverse pivot (weight on back foot at impact) would you mention it after the round.

I wouldn't know that a reverse pivot caused a top, I never offer swing advice.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

First post, hello all. I have been on the end of two pieces of advice after two particularly bad rounds. Both were said gently and politely. Both were said in the bar afterwards and were things I had been aware of following a lesson but had forgotten in the heat of a round. I was grateful for both. I would do the same to a friend but I lack the confidence in my knowledge to offer advice to a stranger.